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      Quote Originally Posted by Musashi View Post
      Sturridge is overrated.
      OMG we agree on a player.... Scenes...

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      It's hard to call the kid overrated when he bangs in 8 goals in less than half a season while our top striker manages 4 in a whole season. Granted the kid still has growing to do and is not a complete product... his prospects look brighter than any striker we currently employ. I wouldn't mind him being a Spurs player but never at the expense of Luka, and I can't see Chelsea selling him to us outright.....so likely a no goer. He'll probably get loaned again, to Bolton or elsewhere.

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      Quote Originally Posted by balooga999 View Post
      It's hard to call the kid overrated when he bangs in 8 goals in less than half a season while our top striker manages 4 in a whole season. Granted the kid still has growing to do and is not a complete product... his prospects look brighter than any striker we currently employ. I wouldn't mind him being a Spurs player but never at the expense of Luka, and I can't see Chelsea selling him to us outright.....so likely a no goer. He'll probably get loaned again, to Bolton or elsewhere.
      I think @contrast put it perfectly when he said people were enamored by the few MOD highlights he had at Bolton. I've seen him play full matches both for Chelsea, Bolton and England. While good, people have exaggerated how good he actually is over a course of a full match. Off the ball movement and general decision making are average to me. I understand that he he has potential but you could say that about a few strikers that would cost around the same, Sturridge has all the hype because he's English. If it came between Leandro/Abel Hernadez or Sturridge I would take either aformentioned. We all know about Leandro with Hernandez he doesn't have the stats (Due mainly to injury and playing behind other strikers), but to me he has the makings of a complete striker. Maybe the best from Uruguay next to Suarez. He runs channels well, he has skill on the ball, deceptively strong and QUICK! He's looking less likely but I have a feeling this year will be his breakout year so it's disappointing. Either way I would take Leandro over Sturridge any day.

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      Quote Originally Posted by BlueCrew LA View Post
      I think @contrast put it perfectly when he said people were enamored by the few MOD highlights he had at Bolton. I've seen him play full matches both for Chelsea, Bolton and England. While good, people have exaggerated how good he actually is over a course of a full match. Off the ball movement and general decision making are average to me. I understand that he he has potential but you could say that about a few strikers that would cost around the same, Sturridge has all the hype because he's English. If it came between Leandro/Abel Hernadez or Sturridge I would take either aformentioned. We all know about Leandro with Hernandez he doesn't have the stats (Due mainly to injury and playing behind other strikers), but to me he has the makings of a complete striker. Maybe the best from Uruguay next to Suarez. He runs channels well, he has skill on the ball, deceptively strong and QUICK! He's looking less likely but I have a feeling this year will be his breakout year so it's disappointing. Either way I would take Leandro over Sturridge any day.
      In general I agree with you. Though I wouldn't compare or put Leandro in the same category as Sturridge. Leandro has featured fairly consistently in his side, playing in one of the most competitive leagues in the world, has competed, won, and preformed well in what is likely the second best cup competition in the world, and has begun to accrue caps at the most competitive position in what might be one of the most talented national squads in the world. To say the least...I would take Leandro over Sturridge as well. The comparison with Abel Hernandez is more interesting, I'm a fan of his as well and I do believe he could break out this year, the boy is skilled as you say. The difference here is how you weigh potential, as you are paying for potential in both cases. I agree Hernandez has all the physical tools to be successful but he hasn't put that to use yet (for whatever reason, injury etc.), while Sturridge might not have those tools he has shown--in a limited sample size (half a season) --in England, that he can put the ball in the net. Neither is a resounding case. People look at so many intangibles for any given striker to find the next big thing that I think sometimes we overlook the most obvious one, can he score? I'm not saying Sturridge is ever going to be an imposing forward in the realm of Dider Drogba or van Nistelrooy but I do think he has the ability to be goal poacher....in the same style as an Inzaghi or Chicharito. I'd still be more inclined to take Hernandez but I certainly don't think it's fair to be dismissive of Sturridge. Yea I would take Leandro or Hernandez over Sturrdige, but to me acquiring Sturridge is independent of those potential aqustions because: 1) Multiple forwards need to be swapped from the squad and 2) I really don't agree on the price tag being similar for the the three. I don't know how much trust you can put on media sources but Leandro has been quoted around 14-16mill Euros, Hernandez 20million Euro (I understand that was his agent but safe to say he's going to be well over 11mill Euro), while Sturridge apparently can be had for 10-11 million euro. Just saying I'm not suggesting we acquire Sturridge over any other player but if he is to become available (interdependently of Modric) then it would be worth it for us to explore.

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      Quote Originally Posted by balooga999 View Post
      In general I agree with you. Though I wouldn't compare or put Leandro in the same category as Sturridge. Leandro has featured fairly consistently in his side, playing in one of the most competitive leagues in the world, has competed, won, and preformed well in what is likely the second best cup competition in the world, and has begun to accrue caps at the most competitive position in what might be one of the most talented national squads in the world. To say the least...I would take Leandro over Sturridge as well. The comparison with Abel Hernandez is more interesting, I'm a fan of his as well and I do believe he could break out this year, the boy is skilled as you say. The difference here is how you weigh potential, as you are paying for potential in both cases. I agree Hernandez has all the physical tools to be successful but he hasn't put that to use yet (for whatever reason, injury etc.), while Sturridge might not have those tools he has shown--in a limited sample size (half a season) --in England, that he can put the ball in the net. Neither is a resounding case. People look at so many intangibles for any given striker to find the next big thing that I think sometimes we overlook the most obvious one, can he score? I'm not saying Sturridge is ever going to be an imposing forward in the realm of Dider Drogba or van Nistelrooy but I do think he has the ability to be goal poacher....in the same style as an Inzaghi or Chicharito. I'd still be more inclined to take Hernandez but I certainly don't think it's fair to be dismissive of Sturridge. Yea I would take Leandro or Hernandez over Sturrdige, but to me acquiring Sturridge is independent of those potential aqustions because: 1) Multiple forwards need to be swapped from the squad and 2) I really don't agree on the price tag being similar for the the three. I don't know how much trust you can put on media sources but Leandro has been quoted around 14-16mill Euros, Hernandez 20million Euro (I understand that was his agent but safe to say he's going to be well over 11mill Euro), while Sturridge apparently can be had for 10-11 million euro. Just saying I'm not suggesting we acquire Sturridge over any other player but if he is to become available (interdependently of Modric) then it would be worth it for us to explore.
      Excellent post, most I agree with.

      I will say though £10m.... I guess I could get my head around that. It's just some of the figures we hear thrown around when people suggest a Modric swap I dismiss. I heard the other day Sturridge + £25m for Modric, problem is they're about £15m off. I think Levy has the dominant positions and he doesn't have to sell Modric. Under normal circumstances I think he would be worth £40m, but given the situation I think Levy could get £50m. He got £30m for Berbatov a player unsettled and his performances were reflecting it, probably £10m more then what he was worth. I see no reason why he couldn't do the same with Luka, when we sell him. I think it's inevitable, definitely not this window but I wouldn't be surprised if he left or stayed in any successive window.

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      Where do you get £10m? Last I heard Chelscum value Sturridge at £20m.

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      Quote Originally Posted by Musashi View Post
      Where do you get £10m? Last I heard Chelscum value Sturridge at £20m.
      Yeah but if they want to use him in a swap deal with Modric then they have to take into account how much we believe he's worth. Our valuations of the player may be a mile apart but if they're using him as a pawn to get Modders then it's our valuation of him that matters most.
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      @BlueCrew LA I don't believe Sturridge is over-hyped when he is a proven goalscorer in this league already. The price tag in this case is not so much because he is English but more so because he has played in the top league in England. Not only has Sturridge had match time at PL clubs, but he has had time training with two title challenging teams. If we could shift our deadwood, I'd take him in a heartbeat... Pains me to see this thread was started in 2009, too.


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      Proven goal scorer? What he did at Bolton was only half a season and around 3 of his 8 goals were lucky goals. Before that he played 13 games for Chelscum and scored 0. In the previous season (09/10) he scored 1 goal in 13 games.

      I also don't see the reason why Modric has any bearing on what Sturridge is worth.

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      The 1 goal in 13 games or 0 over the course of the season is a skewed statistic. Most appearances that he made for Chelsea were for a few minutes at the end of games. I think it is actually a more balanced measure to judge him by his time at Bolton where he was actually given a chance to play several full games in succession.

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      8 goals in 12 games for Bolton in half a season doesn't make a proven goal scorer. He isn't worth 20m either. 10m would be reasonable.

      Just for the record, I think Sturridge is good but not as good as people seem to think. I think he is more like Darren Bent kind of good. Not good enough for the top 6 teams but would be awesome for the top 7-10 teams.

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      To be honest I think Arry is kicking himself a little bit that he sold Bent now, considering the signing of Van der Vaart and how none of our other strikers have performed.

      But to relate it to the topic, Chelsea will need to offer us a striker as part of a Modric deal or it won't happen.


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      Sturridge is a reincarnation of Defoe. Looks really good one minute and crap the next, eventually, in 6 years time, he will just be stood offside all the time, moaning about not playing, thinking he's god and generally being shit.

      I'd take him on a 4 year contract and then sell him, knowing full well whats about to happen

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      He did very good in the pre-season as well. The price is high because he is english
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