VdV & Modric Formation

**USpur** · 05-09-2010, 11:02 PM

I'd really like to see VDV play behind a striker. He and Modric combining should really open up the middle and allow our pace on the sides to come through, or counter an attempt to shut down our wings.

**Joshcorey** · 05-09-2010, 11:03 PM

For me.. its either got to be:

4-4-1-1

- can see this being more euro games, pretty much harrys 4-4-2 but giving VDV the right to do what he wishes, pretty much playing off of defoes shoulder quite like rooney did for england vs bulgaria.. with bale causing them all sorts of problems down the left, but in euro you need the possession, hence why both modric, hudds AND vdv centrally to keep the ball and unlock those defences)

................gomes.....................
.....corluka, daws, king, bae........
lennon, huddlestone, modric, bale
...........van der vaart...............
.................defoe..................

OR

4-2-3-1

- and i could see this being more our prem formation, a bit of steel in there with sandro as the EPL needs, but a strong attacking force still, and with bale coming up from LB, we will have lennon, vdv, modders and bale all flying up at the opposing defences, scary sh*t!

..................gomes...............
....corluka, daws, king, bale...
.......huddlestone, sandro.......
lennon, van der vaart, modric
..................defoe................

**mattspurz** · 06-09-2010, 03:46 AM

Originally Posted by Joshcorey

For me.. its either got to be:

4-4-1-1

- can see this being more euro games, pretty much harrys 4-4-2 but giving VDV the right to do what he wishes, pretty much playing off of defoes shoulder quite like rooney did for england vs bulgaria.. with bale causing them all sorts of problems down the left, but in euro you need the possession, hence why both modric, hudds AND vdv centrally to keep the ball and unlock those defences)

................gomes.....................
.....corluka, daws, king, bae........
lennon, huddlestone, modric, bale
...........van der vaart...............
.................defoe..................

OR

4-2-3-1

- and i could see this being more our prem formation, a bit of steel in there with sandro as the EPL needs, but a strong attacking force still, and with bale coming up from LB, we will have lennon, vdv, modders and bale all flying up at the opposing defences, scary sh*t!

..................gomes...............
....corluka, daws, king, bale...
.......huddlestone, sandro.......
lennon, van der vaart, modric
..................defoe................

Both are very very nice! Like you said I like the 2nd one better for the prem, and the first one for the champions league

**mattspurz** · 06-09-2010, 03:49 AM

Originally Posted by CROspurs

Like i said before Vdv came...

_________Gomes________________

charlie...daws...king...bale...

.........hudd....modric........

lennon.....kranjcar....VdV..

............dafoe..........

it's the most modern formation in football!
we have to stop playing 442!
we have perfect team for this formation!

Change Van der Vaart and Kranjcar and its also a great formation! But it doesnt really matter i guess..

**Robbie_B** · 06-09-2010, 06:11 AM

kranjcar may be favoured to play out on the left wing with bale at left back as niko can run a game out, and this will provide cover for bale and other defenders. This would leave both modders and VDV to play more centrally, with one of them, likely to be VDV to have a free role behind a lone striker. For this to work, tommy may have to be told not to play to far forward.

**1990Hotspur** · 06-09-2010, 09:10 AM

For the Modric debate. As I understand it Modric is a CM. He played there for Dinamo and his national team, and was only converted to a LM by Harry after his confidence was shot after the Ramos era (where I think he was played behind the striker). As he got used to the EPL, he became more confident, and when Wilson had his dip in form/injury Modric was restored to his natural position.

I personally don't think that having a tough tackling midfielder in the CM position is the be all and end all of doing well in the EPL. We disproved this theory when we played Huddlestone and Modric together in the games against Arsenal at home, Chelsea at home, City away and this year against City at home.
So in theory adding Van der Vaart into that midfield would only inhance it as it would mean we had an extra body in there. I think, like the many have already said, that we'll drop striker now and add VdV in a more attacking role-

--------------------Gomes----------------------
Corluka-----Dawson----King----Assou-Ekotto
-----------Huddlestone---Modric--------------
Lennon---------Van der Vaart------------Bale
---------------------Defoe----------------------

However, My best XI would like something like this:

-------------------------------Gomes-------------------------------
Naughton/Walker---------Dawson----King------------------------Bale
----------------------------Huddlestone----------------------------
---------Van der Vaart------------------Modric-------------------
Lennon-----------------------Defoe--------Giovani/Rose/Kranjcar

**Dustin** · 07-09-2010, 12:58 PM

1. As long as Bale is in the form he is in now, he is going to be playing LW even if it means either Modric or VDV have to start on the bench. Why marginalize our most dangerous player just because we brought in a big name?

2. A 4-5-1, 4-4-1-1, 4-2-3-1 will only be used by Harry if it can get us results. As much as we would all like to see us move away from a 4-4-2 at times, we need our strikers to prove they can score goals outside of a 4-4-2. There have been some examples of this, but not enough so far, time will tell. Of course if we are playing a 4-4-2 it means both VDV and Modric can't play in the middle. So if Bale continues in the form he is now, modric will have to be used as a sub for Bale, or VDV will have to be used as a sub for modric in the middle (with Modric moved to the wing for Bale).

3. BAE is not a liability, he (I believe) had the highest successful tackle percentage last year for the team. While his non-physical flying in tackles make us nervous, he is still a quality left back. His style of play just makes him see more risky than other players. Could we have better? No doubt, but he is not light years behind Bale at left back. Bale however, is light years ahead of anyone we have at LW. Again as things stand now with Bale tearing it up, expect to see a lot of BAE at left back.

4. Sandro: Not a safe bet. The difference between the PL and what Sandro is used to is massive. He could come in and light it up, but due to the unpredictability of south american players in the PL I don't think Harry, or any of us, can really count on him at this point. We just have to re-asses him as the season goes on.

So the formations (elaborately spaced!) ignoring current injuries:

----------5 IN THE MIDDLE-------------
-----------------Gomez-------------------

Corluka - Dawson - King/Gallas - BAE

-------- Huddleston ---------------------
-----------------------Modric ------------
Lennon ---------------------------- Bale
---------------VDV-----------------------

----------------Defoe--------------------

------------THE OLD 4-4-2---------------
-----------------Gomez-------------------

Corluka - Dawson - King/Gallas - BAE

------------- Huddleston ----------------
Lennon -------------------- Bale/Modric
------------- VDV/Modric ---------------

-------- Crouch ---- Defoe -------------

As for Modric: For the Premier League he is small, can't get around it. However he seems to manage and play well at both CM and LW. His best games however have been when he plays a CM roll and is not asked to push too far forward. With his pace and control he can attack space if he needs to and this is key to opening up his passing game. If Modric starts with the ball from a deep or central position he can do this, however if he starts from a more forward position he has less space and does not create opportunities or control the tempo the same way as he does in a deeper roll. Of course he is not a defensive player and will not make the CDM tackles that are needed, but that does not mean he has to play an attacking midfielder position. Expect to see him in the middle behind VDV when we play 5 there, or to be in the middle when VDV is not, although LW is not his optimum position, he is still a great option that Harry likes to use. Bale is our best player in LW at the moment, but Modric is the needed cover for when Bale is not there.

The last point about Modric is that on paper he may seem similar to VDV, but in reality they are very different players. VDV is better at a more advanced midfield position than is Modric, therefore they are ideal to play together with a single striker up top. Should be exciting.

**Gomesnum1fan** · 07-09-2010, 02:00 PM

For me now have 4 World Class players that would undoubtly get into either Arsenal,Chelsea,Man United/City,Liverpool,Inter,AC or Bayern in Modric,Bale,VDV and Lennon so ALL of them must play inorder for us to beat the World Class teams and to do that it has to be 1 striker with the Midfield and Full backs getting forward and suporting Defoe.

**Dinamo ZG** · 11-09-2010, 12:45 PM

im just happy VDV is in Spurs caus finaly we'l see more passing game, and more modern European football...

**Kelvin THFC** · 20-09-2010, 09:23 PM

My first is probably my Standard team sheet assuming all players are fit with Bale at left back (Ekotto can be suspect) this also allows us to play Modric and Vand der Vart in their favourite Positions,despite Bales incredible Performances at left wing i still think he's got the engine to be almost as attacking, this will also made him more difficult to pick up and stop teams doubling up on him,much like what Chelsea do with Ashley Cole and Barcelona do with Dani Alvez.

----------------------Gomes------------------

Corluka-----Dawson----------King------------Bale

--------------------Huddlestone------------------

Lennon-------------Van Der Vaart-----------Modric

--------------------Defoe-------Crouch---------------

OR Away in in the Champions league or away to the "big four" i'd probably use this one using JD as the lone striker however as hes injured Pav is the next best option although i think crouch is a better player he has't got the pace or finishing to play up on his own...
------------------Gomes------------------------

Charlie------Dawson-----King------Ekotto

lennon-----Huddlestone----Modric----Bale

----------------Van Der vart---------------

-------------------Defoe------------------

let me know what you think

c'mon you spurs!

**Glenjamin** · 13-10-2010, 04:23 PM

i like the idea of 5 to defend and 5 to attack

--------Gomes
kaboul king dawson ekotto
------huddlestone
--------modric
lennon --vdv ---bale
--------defoe

recently though lennon has been pretty useless and kranjcar has been great for his country even though he isnt getting any team football so...

-----------gomes
hutton king kaboul/dawson ekotto
---------huddlestone
-----modric--------------bale
---------vdv kranjcar
------------pav

essentially you would not have a right winger and hutton would have to make the runs. but due to the fact i like lennon and am not enjoying watching crouch (ever) and pav(occasionally) im goin for one more slightly more radical team until defoe returns. i think kranjcar has got more ability to be a lone striker than pav or crouch. he is quick, great on the ball, good eye for goal, fantastic shot, reasonably strong. the only thing lacking would be the aerial threat but then crouch and pav have been putting simple headers wide all season anyway so doesnt make much difference.

--------gomes
kaboul king dawson ekotto
------huddlestone
lennon-- modric ----bale
-------vdv
----------kranjcar

just one more which is slightly less out there and after looking at it i've decided it is my favourite. would almost be like england last night where a young (kranjcar) was able to drop inside with a cole(bale) helping on the wing. this would leave you with a constant back 3 of kaboul dawson king allowing bale to use the wing. would allow kranjcar to cut inside and support modric which would allow vdv to push further forward with pav which wouldnt leave him so stranded. and with good ole huddlestone to spray the bale around things could run quite smoothly. also gives lennon his wing to himself which he seems to prefer rather than sharing with hutton.

-------gomes
kaboul king dawson bale
------huddlestone
lennon -modric -kranjcar
-------vdv
-----------pav/defoe(when fit)

yeah alright so im a little bored lol.
Glen

**rossdfc** · 14-10-2010, 09:59 AM

1. For a start, I think Bale must be at left midfield. He is one of the best in the world going forward on the wing (which he can do at left back), BUT is very average defensively.

2. For Champions League games I'd like to see Crouch starting every game. Foreign defences can't seem to handle him. I'd put this down to the fact that in the Premiership, centre backs tend to be bigger and more physical so can push him around and compete in the air. Also many of the guys have played against/with Crouch quite a lot now so it makes it easier for them to cope with the fact he is 6'7. In pretty much all of our European games so far I've been very impressed with him.

So for a regular Premiership game I would play:

Gomes
Hutton - Dawson - King - BAE
Huddlestone
Modric - Bale
Van der Vaart
Defoe (Crouch)

Saw this idea above, and like the look of this. Modric would be playing quite central, meaning Hutton would be the one running up and down the right flank, and of course Bale on the left. With Huddlestone covering I think this could work nicely.

Champions League and games vs. Big 4 (3):

Gomes
Kaboul - Dawson - King - BAE
Huddlestone - Modric
Defoe (Lennon) - Van der Vaart - Bale
Crouch

Another possibility is:

Gomes
Kaboul - King - Dawson
Huddlestone
Hutton - Modric - Bale
Van der Vaart
Defoe - Crouch

This formation looks great on paper although in reality, I'm not sure if playing three at the back would work, even with Huddlestone sitting just in front of them. Unless Hutton and Bale were always extremely alert defensively we would be very exposed on the wings. Also, with injuries to our midfielders this formation would have to be out of the reckoning - because for example Lennon wouldn't be able to do the job that Hutton would have to do (as he would be his replacement).

**Liquid Spurs** · 20-10-2010, 11:25 AM

Originally Posted by Ringer7

---------------Gomes---------------
Corluka---Dawson--King/Gallas---BAE
------------Huddlestone------------
Lennon-------------------------Bale
-----------VdV----Modric-----------
------------Defoe/Crouch-----------

I see VDV plus an out-and-out striker as the way forward for our front two. Which would allow us to play Modric in midfield too. So I think that something like this is the way forward.

**rudi** · 20-10-2010, 12:57 PM

He doesn't have the pace to be a striker; he needs the ball to his feet.

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