Did Harry drop the ball?

***thfcshady27*** · 04-04-2009, 10:40 PM

Originally Posted by kevfball63

I still feel guilty about the penalty , harsh decision = how mad is that = i think if that hadn't been given we would have won easily . Am i on my own here

sorry kev mate gotta disagree....if we hadnt got the pen we would never have scored....it was just gonna be one o them days.....the sending off was just a case o a ref making a rash decision shortly after another decision and going with the croud......hopefully the fa will see it was a balls up and recind the decision!

**ditch and burn** · 04-04-2009, 10:55 PM

Originally Posted by basskadet

I am starting to wonder if Harry actually knows that he is allowed 3 subs & not just 1.

Hello Bass. Disappointing game today and Palacios really shouldn't have been given that second yellow. The refereeing was a joke.

With regards substitutions, I have re-entered the world of geekdom and come up with a little stat for you, based on Harry's games in charge of us.

In 35 matches, Redknapp has made a substition in every single game, using the following amount of replacements:
1 sub... 6 times
2 subs...10 times
3 subs...19 times

This means he's made an average 2.37 substitutions per game (obviously that 0.37 of a player would be Gilberto!), with the majority of games seeing him use the full 3 changes.

As I say, please excuse the geekiness... I'm a sucker for a stat!

***berby999*** · 05-04-2009, 07:15 AM

Originally Posted by ditch and burn

Hello Bass. Disappointing game today and Palacios really shouldn't have been given that second yellow. The refereeing was a joke.

With regards substitutions, I have re-entered the world of geekdom and come up with a little stat for you, based on Harry's games in charge of us.

In 35 matches, Redknapp has made a substition in every single game, using the following amount of replacements:
1 sub... 6 times
2 subs...10 times
3 subs...19 times

This means he's made an average 2.37 substitutions per game (obviously that 0.37 of a player would be Gilberto!), with the majority of games seeing him use the full 3 changes.

As I say, please excuse the geekiness... I'm a sucker for a stat!

Stato King

**kevfball63** · 05-04-2009, 08:05 AM

Originally Posted by P UNIT 1980

What you mean kev I dont understand what ya sayin.

All I am saying is that Arry was unlucky and did the best he could with the players at his disposal.

Our downfall was due to Bents atrocious movement and our players b!tching to the reff instead of switching on and getting stuck in.

I am fed up of fickle yids ****ging Arry and not the players every time we drop a bloody point.

This was what i was trying to get at , we were in front before Palacios got sent off , so IMO the player to be substituted should have been Bent for Zokora

**Pitseleh** · 05-04-2009, 10:08 AM

bent for zokora was the obvious choice, for me. .. but i know lennons been struggling with a groin problem, maybe that was a factor..

how many times have we been beaten away from home? i can honestly say since harrys been in charge i dont think we've been outplayed ONCE. we've lost to late goals, all of them similar to yesterdays, a scramble or a header inside the box. i wasnt expecting a win before the game, but we still played well, which was a pleasent suprise, i thought the international break was going to leave us rusty, but we played well and deserved 3 points.

on the upside though wilson will surely be available for the next game, since the red will surely be rescinded?

im confident we'll win our last 4 home games. points off west ham, newcastle, west brom and city at home - with everton, manure and 'pool perhaps offering a few bonus points. we should finish off with around 50 points, a few more if we're lucky. will that be good enough for europe? lets wait and see.

i do know this, anybody who is getting sick of harry is a fool. what have you been getting sick of, pray tell? is it beating chelsea, beating villa, a mixture of the 2 maybe?

the pav arguments getting old, but to be honest i dont think any of us can offer any rounded judgements as to whether he should/shouldn't be in the team. hes been a bit of an enigma, he's scored a decent amount of goals for a first season, in a struggling team, hes been non existant at times away from home, he must be knackered after such a long haul... put it this way, harry sees him in training every week, and the saying "if it aint broke, dont fix it" applies here.

in harry we trust.

***berby999*** · 05-04-2009, 10:15 AM

I dont think Palacios's suspenion can be rescinded mate, If it was a straight red then the F.A can take a look at it but as it was 2 yellows i dont think they can. Hope im wrong do.

**Pitseleh** · 05-04-2009, 11:05 AM

i think you're right actually. they should make exceptions. i know they cant be overturning refs decisions to hand out yellows at it would get silly, but when it results in the player serving a suspension, having already altered the outcome of that game, they should have a look at that really.

***basskadet*** · 05-04-2009, 03:49 PM

I've looked into this a it & apparently you cannot appeal when 2 yellows have ben issued but the Referee involved can look into it & if he feels he was wrong he can withdraw the decision

Let's hope Mr Walton can be the big man & admit he got it wrong, although Harry's comments after the game probably won't have helped matters!

Originally Posted by Pitseleh

bent for zokora was the obvious choice, for me. .. but i know lennons been struggling with a groin problem, maybe that was a factor..

That is exactly what I thought too. I don't understand why Harry didn't make the sub straight away either, instead waiting 2-3 minutes. That gave Rovers time to exploit our now lightweight midfield & get the upperhand.

Originally Posted by ditch and burn

In 35 matches, Redknapp has made a substition in every single game, using the following amount of replacements:
1 sub... 6 times
2 subs...10 times
3 subs...19 times

This means he's made an average 2.37 substitutions per game )

ditch, I don't doubt Harry has used 3 subs in the majority of games, I just mean in recent weeks he seems to have forgotten. since the Sunderland game he hasn't used all 3 once

**Paddytheman** · 05-04-2009, 07:00 PM

Thats right, an appeal is a no go..Very impressed with Pal so far, breaking things down, spreading the ball and several excellent shots on target...think this became apparent when we lost him, shambolic in defense but Gomes...damn

***basskadet*** · 05-04-2009, 07:13 PM

This is the point I'm making tho Paddy, I don't think our defence had much of a chance. We lost a midfielder &, for some reason, Harry did not replace him. It was clear that Samba was going to win any long ball pumped into the box, so we were relying on our midfield to win the second ball. We did that fine when it was 4 v 4 in midfield but when Pal got sent off we were left with 4 against 3 & they got the upper hand. Harry, imo, really should have spotted this straight away. I think he had seen our dominance over 80 min & believed, even with 10 men, we would be superior & if he left 2 strikers on we would have got the second goal. However, Bent had not looked like scoring all second half & I'd have been happier defending our 1 goal lead by that point. If Lennon HAD to be replaced, Harry should have brought 2 players on, perhaps Hudd for Bent & Zokora for Lennon. i would have prefered Lennon stayed on the pitch tho & just put Zok on for Bent. I just don't really understand why he left us in a 432 formation when we were already struggling to deal with Samba.

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