I want the truth

[yido4life]

This season has been the worst that I can remember. 2 points from 8 games meant the end for Ramos and the beginning for Redknapp. We started well under Harry but we havn't won a league game since West Ham back in December (7 games i think). Where is the Spurs team: that finished 5th two seasons in a row, that almost finished in the champions league. Ramos and Comolli are the reason behind all this. We are in a relegation fight but i keep asking myself the same question: Will we survive? I just look at the squad and I am unsure. We can lose to Arsenal. We can lose a cup final. But for me relegation is the ultimate low. My friends will never let me forget it (One of my friends who is a big Chelsea supporter is actually going to hold a relegation party if we go down, honest) I would feel humiliated. The season ends on the 24th May (we are away to Liverpool, PERFECT). And I keep asking myself...

Is there a way out? Or is it already confirmed?

[nickGT]

This thread has confirmed that i need to time out from this forum.

No offense mate.

[kevfball63]

Very negative post in my opinion , and nostalgia is not going to change or help the future . We are in a transition period where the whole set up of the club has been changed . These things take time
and Daniel Levy let Ramos have just a little too much time i think .

[yidno1]

Nothing wrong with a negative thread, im the King of them at the moment.
The lad wants answers as do I as to why I have to endure this tripe served up week after week by so called Proffesional players.
Hes right what were seeing demands answers from alot people at the top at Spurs, we let far too many grafters go in Steed and Tanio to name two and kept utter rubbish in Jenas and Huddlestone probably the laziest pair in a Spurs shirt.
Will we go down is the question asked? well at this stage of the season with teams all around us more up for the fight then id says a very dissapointing yes we may go down.

[nickGT]

Its not that fact that its a negative thread thats a problem. The team is playing poorly so ofcourse there are gonna be negative threads on the forum. Its just that there is atleast 10 threads that run along the same guidelines. The forum is overrun with this ****.

I agree we can't be all "Rosey" when we are obviously up sh*t street. However there is no need for threads on the sam fcking subject. Its actually starting to piss me off. [/rant]

[yidno1]

Ah well that i do agree with that, many points in this topic are covered else where.
Were all just searching for answers that dont looked like being answered by the club.

[nickGT]

You are just going to get the same peoples opinions over and over again in different threads. And what question is this guy asking that the club could possibly answer?

I will wax lyrical on this one and answer the questions.

Is there a way out? : Yes.

Or is it already confirmed? : No its not.

This isn't a personal dig at anyone just these mindless threads are driving me insane. Again no offense meant to the OP.

[kevfball63]

OK i'll try to let you know why we are where we are . But like i said nostalgia will not make for nice reading .

When Frank Arnesene was brought in as sporting director , his first appointment was Martin Jol as first team coach .
That done . Jol was not deemed as high profile enough to become manager so he appointed Jaques Santini , who was the current France manager .
Now Jaques Santini brought in his own first team coach ( Domonic Couples ) which practically sidelined Martin Jol .
The fact we had a good start to the season , the board at spurs gave a ( if its not broken dont try to fix it ) approach .
Now when we had a bad run and found ourselves in the bottom half of the table , the board then approached Santini and said " we already have a first team coach , so either your coach goes or you both go .
Santini chose to go , not realising there was a clause in his contract that said if spurs were in the bottom half of the table we could terminate the contract without compensation . Leaving Martin Jol in a stand in coach/trainer/manager role .
Now Jol got two consecutive 5th place finishes and built a strong team before Frank Arnesene defected to Chelski . In stepped commoli
Jol had a bad start to the season and spurs made a drastic decision and brought in Juande Ramos , who had just won UEFA cups back to back .
Ramos won the CARLING CUP but the team won only 3 of their remaining games of the season .
Ramos had a worse start than Jol to the season , buy Daniel Levy tried to give him as much time as possible because of his good history .
Danile Levy again took drastic action by removing Commoli and Ramos and installed Harry Redknapp .
We are now in a transition period where the whole club set up has been revolved , and brought back to the old ways of the manager having the overall say on players brought in . Now the squad that we have now has only two of Harry's own choice players , and Harry is getting continually frustrated with the fact as soon as we show an interest in a player = the price practically doubles .
We must give him time , and the current market activities are only causing us to part with nearly everything we have to beat the drop .

I hope this can bring a ray of hope .

But i feel it was Commoli that stabbed Jol in the back to save his own skin . And we are paying for it now

[PARKLANEMICK]

Its getting a wee bit depressing around here for sure!

A good win against Stoke and we'll soon be back YIDS - dont worry we CAN and WILL do it, then Harry can start his rebuild during the holidays.

[DarlingtonYid]

Kevball63 spot on post hit the nail on the head

[210597]

I don't see Harry as the long-term solution. It might be subjective of me, but I feel as if his whole attitude has been "Well bloody hell, don't ask me why it's all going wrong, it isn't my team, now, is it?" It's evident in his words after terrible games like last night and it's even evident in the way his face contorts when we do things like go down 3-0 at Burnley.

I don't truly believe Spurs will do the drop this season, because, even though it's a tired and dangerous line to use, I really do think they are just too damn good to do so. What concerns me more, however, is the fact that the work being done on the team is still patchworky. The manager says he wants players and he wants them now, so let's buy a Palacios here for 14 mil, buy a Defoe here for 15, never mind any sort of long-term strategy or vision, they just happen to be around and available to us, so hell, let's have a go and see what happens. Those 30 million alone would have been enough to buy a boatload of decent young players from Italy, France, Spain or Germany.

Right now, my concern is that Spurs are running themselves into a deeper, more permanent rut by making shortsighted decisions.

[luminoir]

The manager says he wants players and he wants them now, so let's buy a Palacios here for 14 mil, buy a Defoe here for 15, never mind any sort of long-term strategy or vision, they just happen to be around and available to us, so hell, let's have a go and see what happens. Those 30 million alone would have been enough to buy a boatload of decent young players from Italy, France, Spain or Germany.

Well, I think Defoe never should have been sold in the first place and Palacios is probably the best bit of business we've done since Woodgate. We have needed a ST and DM for a long time.
As for decent young players that have never played in the EPL, don't think a relegation scrap with half a season left is the place for them to bed down.

[desyid]

Well, I think Defoe never should have been sold in the first place and Palacios is probably the best bit of business we've done since Woodgate. We have needed a ST and DM for a long time.
As for decent young players that have never played in the EPL, don't think a relegation scrap with half a season left is the place for them to bed down.

Mabe bedding young players would'nt be such abad thing , at least they mite be able to complete more than two passes without giving the ball away so easy. Not one of them had the sence to see that it needed someone to put a foot on it.

[bazzabelfast]

lets all go into the thfc bar and tell a few jokes !!!

cheer us all up ?

[CmonyouSpurs]

Please guys let's try to keep positive about the current situation. Sure we've been terrible recently but if the fans don't have confidence in the team and in the players then will the team have confidence in itself? We have to stick by the team no matter what.