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      Former Tottenham boss Martin Jol believes the club are struggling because they have lost their sense of identity.
      Jol was sacked as Spurs manager last October after three years at the helm at White Hart Lane.
      The Dutchman helped Spurs to consecutive fifth places during his time at the club and they also boasted half a dozen players in the England squad.
      Jol, who is now back in management with German outfit Hamburg, says Tottenham's transfer policy in bringing in a host of foreign stars has replaced the English core and affected the club's form.
      "I feel if you work for an English club you need an English identity and I think that worked," Jol told the Sunday Times. "We were developing young players and were in Europe every year.
      "I had six players in the England squad. Now there is Corluka, Giovani, Pavlyuvhenko, Modric...and Spurs have a different philosphy.
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      "They've changed the team's identity. They are so desperate for succcess that if they are not successful it will be a disaster."
      Jol also claims Tottenham had lined up a move for Juande Ramos before he was sacked.
      Despite his acrimonious departure, the 52-year-old says he has no bitterness towards chairman Daniel Levy or director of football Damien Comolli.
      "I knew Comolli was trying to get Ramos in the summer, even when we had just finished fifth," added Jol.
      He also rejected suggestions that Tottenham's management structure of a coach and a director of football was to blame for the side's current plight.
      He said: "If you work with a football director who's your choice, or you're his choice, the system functions.
      "When Frank (Arnesen) was at Spurs it was perfect. But if one coach leaves and the next one is changing 10 or 12 players what's the value of having the structure?"

      heres the link - Sky Sports | Football | News | Jol - Spurs have identity crisis

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      Nice one MJ...

      Great find.

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      I think it is not appropriate for him to give comment on Spur publicly when he no longer work in here

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      um its a free world he can say what he wants to first off
      and man i wish Levy hadnt sacked him
      but thaqts in past, but he can say what he thinks, and he does have a point
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      Quote Originally Posted by funfun168 View Post
      I think it is not appropriate for him to give comment on Spur publicly when he no longer work in here
      after the way the big man was treated i think he's in a better position than most to give his opinion!

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      i miss jol. i do not like ramos.. also i think he uses the "i dont speak english" as an excuse. he needs to come out and talk!!!!!

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      i know what needs to happen

      comoli levy and ramos, and might as well ad berba to the have a nice dinner meeting. then the fu**ers need to eat some bad shrimp and just fall of the face of the earth
      anyone know how to make some posinous shrimp??? all it takes is a restauraunt, shrimp and them 4 bast**ds
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      Quote Originally Posted by LukaModric2010 View Post
      i know what needs to happen

      comoli levy and ramos, and might as well ad berba to the have a nice dinner meeting. then the fu**ers need to eat some bad shrimp and just fall of the face of the earth
      anyone know how to make some posinous shrimp??? all it takes is a restauraunt, shrimp and them 4 bast**ds
      that sounds good to me mate. posinous shrimp!!

      hey what about taking commoli, levi and ramos too london zoo and put pieces of rotting meat in their pockets and throw them to the tigers

      commoli and levi have ruined our club and ramos is utter crap

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      haha yeah
      well all spurs thing have one thing that is keeping us together

      out love of the club, yes, but the hate everyone shares for COMOLLI
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      Quote Originally Posted by spurs09 View Post
      that sounds good to me mate. posinous shrimp!!

      hey what about taking commoli, levi and ramos too london zoo and put pieces of rotting meat in their pockets and throw them to the tigers

      commoli and levi have ruined our club and ramos is utter crap

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      You'd get banged up for cruelty to animals!!!

      These are the real pieces of rotten meat that need cutting out of the club.

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      Nah, the team needs geling, confidence and winning mentality in that sense they lack identity, but I don't think it has much to do with english players. Ofcorse it does, it's easier for an englishmen to gel with other englishmen. A lot of foreign players have been brought in. They don't understand each other, but there was similar situation in Man City last season and they started their season on high. It helped them gel and created good atmosphere. On the other hand there was a lot of expactions on spurs and the first defeat, well everything just went wrong and Ramos isn't helping with his constant rotations.

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      Yeah i agree. I think our main problem is that we bought in so many new players and they really haven't gel'd as fast we hoped them too. Its no doubt that we have talent and i'm sure if some of the circumstances were different we could easily be in the top 6 right now.

      Ramos has made a mess of this season but I think that is mainly down to Commoli's incompetence in the transfer window.

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      Quote Originally Posted by funfun168 View Post
      I think it is not appropriate for him to give comment on Spur publicly when he no longer work in here
      Sadly MJ was shown the door even after turning spurs around, he didn't leave of his own volition mate. I think he is emminently capable of assessing the situation. I think he has hit the nail on the head, with his interpretation of spurs demise.

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      No.

      Its not like they got in a couple of new players. Its basically a squad overhaul. I know its not the only reason but its definetly part of the problem. Like i said before i think the terrible atmosphere in the dressing room is largely down to the unrest we had at the end of the season with berbatov. If Comolli done his job properly and got the players we needed early then there would be a much more team like atmosphere.

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      Quote Originally Posted by bones235 View Post
      they get time to gel every day in training mate that old chestnut is getting tedious now !!

      please no more.........

      It's not just geling. It's the overall chemistry and that is hard to get. These players can't understand each other plus the team is in the bottom of the league, their confidence is non-existant. If the team started the season on a high like Man City last season, then things would have been different.

      Also do you know how long it takes for a team properly to gel. At least a season.

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