Spurs removed from Nextgen SF

[basskadet]

I can't see this being discussed anywhere but it is pretty tragic if you ask me.

The club's official statement claims that we contacted the organizers of the tournament in order to remove ourselves from the competition after the club had discovered they had mistakingly broken tournament rules.

However, nowhere does it actually state the offence broken.


#Gutted

[spursman18]

I can't see this being discussed anywhere but it is pretty tragic if you ask me.

The club's official statement claims that we contacted the organizers of the tournament in order to remove ourselves from the competition after the club had discovered they had mistakingly broken tournament rules.

However, nowhere does it actually state the offence broken.


#Gutted

It's being discussed in the academy thread.


I think this is the rule we have fallen foul of......


3. Age Category

All eligible players shall belong to the following age category:

Each squad will consist of a maximum 18 players. All players must be born on or after January 1st 1993 although 3 players are allowed in the squad who are born on or after January 1st 1992. Only two of these three players born on or after January 2nd 1992 are allowed to play at any one time. The inclusion of the 3 older players is an ‘option’ for each participating club and not a stipulation.


This was our squad the other night with DOB's where relevant, all the others are born after Jan 93, the only one I cannot find anymore about is this Nabil Bentaleb......


Line-up:

Mile, Barthram (79), Stewart, Luongo (C) (Sept 92), Veljkovic, Nicholson (July 92), Gomelt (64), Pritchard, Coulibaly, Munns, Coulthirst

Subs:Granger, Bentaleb (64), Ceballos (Dec 92), Ekong (79), Mcevoy, Angol


As Luongo and Nicholson are two "overage players" and both played the full 90mins, any subs that are overage would mean us breaking the rules. Ekong is not overage and Ceballos did not come onto play, that only leaves Bentaleb!!!

[basskadet]

It's being discussed in the academy thread.

Oh, OK. I reckon it ought to have it's own thread in the players section though to be honest. I searched for it for flipping ages and couldn't find it anywhere using the search function. It's a topic more worthy of discussion than just being filed under the generic "Academy" section.

Anyways . . .

Yeah, I was thinking Bentaleb too - & whether he played or not we'd have broken the rules as you're only allowed 3 overage players, with only 2 playing at the same time. Nicholson, Luongo & Ceballos are the overage 3, so even just having Bentaleb (if overage) is breaking rules

The other thing is that the rules state that the squad for the competition can be no larger than 18 players. However, it is pretty unclear whether this rule is on a game-by-game status or over the competition as a whole. I suspect it is game-by-game, as 11 players + 7 subs = 18, but if it is meant that only 18 can be used throughout the tournament, we've used 26.

[spursman18]

Oh, OK. I reckon it ought to have it's own thread in the players section though to be honest. I searched for it for flipping ages and couldn't find it anywhere using the search function. It's a topic more worthy of discussion than just being filed under the generic "Academy" section.

Anyways . . .

Yeah, I was thinking Bentaleb too

The other thing is that the rules state that the squad for the competition can be no larger than 18 players. However, it is pretty unclear whether this rule is on a game-by-game status or over the competition as a whole. I suspect it is game-by-game, as 11 players + 7 subs = 18, but if it is meant that only 18 can be used throughout the tournament, we've used 26.

Yeah definitely, dont have a problem with it either way as it'll get more views this way too.

If thats the case ie, using that number of players then surely we would have been kicked out when we went over the 18 player limit?

['Nixspur]

An utter shame if it was the 64th minute substitution that cost us this place.

To be honest, the buck has to fall somewhere, and someone ****ed up royally. It's the kind of mistake that just shouldn't have been made.

[basskadet]

Just heard

Nabil Bentaleb was born in 1996 and is just 15, therefore he is TOO YOUNG!! (the comp is for 16-18 year olds)

What a f-ing joke! If anything, that makes our achievement all the greater!

[jonspurs]

Pretty rookie mistake. You'd think they'd have all that sort of stuff sorted.

Edit - Too young? Well that's fooking wank! if anything that's a disadvantage!

Second edit - Disregard the previous edit

[spursman18]

Just heard

Nabil Bentaleb was born in 1996 and is just 15, therefore he is TOO YOUNG!! (the comp is for 16-18 year olds)

What a f-ing joke! If anything, that makes our achievement all the greater!

He's 17 mate (@jonspurs ).......confirmed in this recent video

[basskadet]

Well, you say it's a rookie mistake, but the rules do not specifically state you CANNOT play underage players, just that players born after 93 are legible and that only 3 players born after 92 may be included in the squad.


Aston Villa broke the overage rule in most of their games, regularly fielding 3 players born between Jan '92- Jan '93 and nobody said nothing.

Jokes

He's 17 mate (@jonspurs ).......confirmed in this recent video

He "says" he's 17, but his dob that has been stated as 21-08-96. Could explain why we thought he was legible if he's told people he's older than he is

[spursman18]

He "says" he's 17, but his dob that has been stated as 21-08-96. Could explain why we thought he was legible if he's told people he's older than he is

Can you post where you found this info? I've talked to WindyCOYS about it and he said that someone had found an article stating he was 17 but it just doesnt make sense for a youth player to lie about his age.

[basskadet]

Can you post where you found this info? I've talked to WindyCOYS about it and he said that someone had found an article stating he was 17 but it just doesnt make sense for a youth player to lie about his age.

Yeah, I've tracked it down, but I think it might be a different Nabil Bentaleb as the picture (although clearly much younger) looks different. It's not always eaasy to tell from pics/video though as kids who are growing can look quite different. The pic comes from 2010-2011, from a Toulouse youth team (not actually Toulouse FC, but linked to them).

I don't reckon it's the same kid, but it'd be interesting to see where we got him from:

Joueur - Nabil BENTALEB - club de football TOAC FOOTBALL - Footeo

[spursman18]

Yeah, I've tracked it down, but I think it might be a different Nabil Bentaleb as the picture (although clearly much younger) looks different. It's not always eaasy to tell from pics/video though as kids who are growing can look quite different. The pic comes from 2010-2011, from a Toulouse youth team (not actually Toulouse FC, but linked to them).

I don't reckon it's the same kid, but it'd be interesting to see where we got him from:

Joueur - Nabil BENTALEB - club de football TOAC FOOTBALL - Footeo

That's definitely him mate......

cant believe the club missed this.

[basskadet]

Like you say though, if the kid says he's 17, what reason have we not to believe him?

I also think we've allowed our honesty to get the better of us. As I said before, Villa had no problem playing 3 overage players for the full 90min in the group stage, & that actually GIVES them an advantage. The rules don't specifically state anything about underage players and, if anything, it's a handicap.

We could easily have apologised for using a kid too young & just moved on to the SF & nobody would've said a thing. Why pull out? Aston Villa sure as hell would've ploughed on to the SF if they'd beaten Marseille

[spursman18]

Yeah, I agree that we've let our honesty get the better of us but it is the "right" thing to do.

It is a big shame missing out in this competition though.

We do however have a big big game in the FA Youth Cup coming up against Charlton and if we win that we play Man United at OT in the SF.

[basskadet]

I wonder if Bentaleb will play


Incidentally, wtf is Rohan Ricketts doing back at Spurs in full training gear? Lol, you gotta love Rohan! Him & Bentley in training must be total banter