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The Premier League is supposedly mulling over adding an "International Round" around 2010-2011, a 39th game for each club, to be taken to different international cities.
[Got this from 4thegame.com and espnsoccernet.com, too stuffed to link]
I'm not the only one who thinks this is stupid, pointless and unworkable - right?
Only reason = more money for the league and big clubs.
anti-reason = there is no sporting argument for this.
stupid thing = there's not enough of a crowd draw for all the games, as not all will involve a Big Club - and even if they seed these games, have at least one Big Club in every game, it still won't be a great draw to have a Man U side play relative "unknowns" like Derby.
Can anybody really think of a decent argument for this?
Meaning, of course, other than "I want to see Spurs out here". Hell, I'd love to see Spurs out here - doesn't mean I want a bloody league game out here. Why go to a league game if it's not at White Hart Lane or at least in England?
"The great fallacy is that the game is first and foremost about winning. It's nothing of the kind. The game is about glory. It's about doing things in style, with a flourish, about going out and beating the other lot, not waiting for them to die of boredom."
-Danny Blanchflower, Ex-Spurs Captain
I want to argue that this is a bad/pointless idea but at the same time I want to see more NFL matches in the UK so I have a chance to see the Skins again 1 day maybe...
The only real purpose is marketing the sport to other countries, as with the NFL. But on your point of there not being enough of a crowd I'm not sure I agree. The NFL London match was sold out with many times the available seats applied for and that was 1 bad team and 1 mediocre team. I can't see a game, in America anyway, not selling out.
That doesn't make it a good idea, just saying.
At the same time I don't think adding 1 foreign game to the season is gonna make a huge difference. If it's timed in conjunction with UEFA/Champions League/Internationals could be done mid-week without too much disruption (depending on where it is obviously).
In my opinion it should be left up to individual clubs to tour worldwide in the off-season as they see fit but to make it good premier league teams would need to go play each other in another country.
I know this post is a bit of a mess and apologise, I'm sure you get the gist of it, I have no real problem with the extra game but agree it's not really in the interest of football but that of money-making.
"It's no use just winning, we've got to win well."
Think it is bollox but im sure it will happen (money, money, money - it's a rich mans game).
Having said that i can think of a few good reasons to hold the next Ar5ena1 vs Chelski match in Baghdad or Kabul. :32:
What a load of bull.....
Clubs have their pre-season tours. They should leave it at that. This is yet another money making scheme, and should it happen, I will be spending my cash down at Enfield Town where football is played by real men, watched by real fans, where the passion is genuine. Good honest players, for the love of the game.
I'm already becoming dispondant with Premiership football as it has rapidly become a circus over the past 16 years or so.
Football has lost its soul. Long live Ryman Football League Division One North!!!
lol, brilliant, we should start lobbying for this now :10:Originally Posted by Old Yid
"It's no use just winning, we've got to win well."
Good idea. Bad execution!!!
It would be great to have the money flooding in from a chinese (for example) fanbase that would enhance our reputation world wide and boost our economical status!!!
However..... Why play one more game? Why the last game of the season?
Why not just play it as a regular league match, one of the already Ridiculous 38!
Why not play it over chrimbo some time allowing for a break as nearly all other european leagues do. Back in time for boxing day of course!!!
OR..........
It could be the penultimate match of the season, so the home fans get to celebrate/commiserate at the same time with their team on the pitch. Lets face it no one wants to find out they have been relegated via pay per view satelite from Kazakhstan!!! And it would be the perfect opourtunity to sell pay per view to all the foreigners who went, watched, listened to and enjoyed the penultimate match, for the "GRAND SLAM FINALLY OF THE ENGLISH SOCCER LEAGUE COMPETITION, STARING TOOTINGHAM HOTSPURS & BOOULTOON WANDERERS".
We have the best league in the world for entertainment, and we do need to keep selling and pushing to attract the big money for all!!!
I would think there's no way it'll be the last game of the season, that would be an even more unpopular decision...
"It's no use just winning, we've got to win well."
I think I forgot to mention - it wouldn't be the last game of the season, it would be in january.
I'd say more but my lazy butt just realized the time. Off to work!
"The great fallacy is that the game is first and foremost about winning. It's nothing of the kind. The game is about glory. It's about doing things in style, with a flourish, about going out and beating the other lot, not waiting for them to die of boredom."
-Danny Blanchflower, Ex-Spurs Captain
cant see any advantage of this other than money for the prem. still, its the best chance for west ham to play in europe this century!
who in spain will want to go and see bolton v sunderland?
this is just the latest money grabbing scheme that weve decided to copy from the americans. i personaly dont know anyone that watched, or had an urge to watch, the nfl game held over here.
what sort of countries would we be going to play these matches in? countries that have a relatively low football support, or places like spain and france where its well supported already?
all in all, i think that if were going to reach out to other countries, we should try and conquor wales, scotland and ireland before the rest of the world!
Give a man a fire, he'll be warm for a night, set a man on fire, he'll be warm for the rest of his life!
I gather it would be the US, Australia and somewhere else as prime candidates, i.e. places where the Premier League feels it could garner a fanbase.
The utterly, utterly ridiculous part of this scheme is that they want to play an extra game in the season! That is just utterly nuts. It means you end up playing one team three times in a season, the rest twice. How stupid can you get? What happens if you end up with something like ManUre against Villa, while the Arsehole play (for argument sake) Derby, the former ends a draw, the latter a win for the Goons, and they win the title at the end of the season by a point? Or something similar for Champions League qualification, or the UEFA Cup, or indeed relegation.
Madness. Sheer, utter madness.
LOL! thats a good one
I think this idea is disgusting. Asif the premiership dosn't get enough money anyway! I was only saying last night how the finacial gap between the premiership and the lower leagues needs to be shortened and i wake up to this. I no im a tad to patriotic but i feel this idea will eventually destroy the grass roots of english football. I no it starts off with an idea of one game a season but clubs will make so much more money that it will soon turn to 5 then more. It also destabilises the league because a 39th game does not make sense unless the league is made smaller to accomadate the games played but that will not be annouced yet because then there will be teams that are seen as victims of the idea i.e. relegation/strugggling premiership teams. I can see the league being eventally cut to 13 teams who will play each other 3 times a season with a selected ammount being played abroad. In a few years time do you really want a north london derby played in say america so the average person has to miss it for the sake of some more extra revenue? I certanly dont. Having to stay up untill whatever hour in the morning to watch us play and not being able to watch the match's at the ground. I would also like to no who is going to pay for all the policing of this game? no doubt it will be the English taxpayer.
DONT SELL OUT ENGLISH FOOTBALL!!!
selling out english football ? is a bit melo dramatic !!! you should be proud that the premiership has stimulated so much interest world wide !!! and lets face it we are talking about the eastern market here and nowere else why would you not consent to a game in tokyo or beijing ? the millions of pounds of increased revenue can only bolster the premiership as the best football league in the world ? the big money is in the mercandise sold which would be crazy money !!! the worlds biggest clubs like real madrid barcelona milan ...... have all caplitalised on this part of the world for years and manure travel this region every pre season ? what is the problem ?
The problem is in what i have written already m8. :4:
There is no need to play any extra league game in forien countrys. we can play pre-season games there to exploit there money! not that we need the extra revenue but obviously clubs want to make more. we can also play pre-season tourements like the one in s.africa and the peace cup before that. there is also world club cup competition and the uefa cup and the champion leagues. Granted that clubs that dont make european qualifying cant play in the uefa or champions league but they can particapate in all kind of money making pre-season events abroad! there is no need to disrupt the english premier league. its a f**king joke. its a money spinning con. so we will be selling out on the premier league which is already the best in the world and playing it in another country dont prove that at all. clubs like barca and madrid and milan make money pre-season in pre-season compititions and during season. during the season they play in exactly the same compititions as the premier league teams and dont disrupt the seria a or la liga. thats the problem
The Actual Plan
It would have games played in places like Hong Kong, New York, Los Angeles, Singapore, Sydney, Johannesburg, Dubai and Beijing.
Not Spain, France, etc. That would make it even more stupid.
ESPN's Carter takes the plan to task
He brings up a few points already made here, like the effect on title races, etc. Also the logistical issue - who gets the long haul to Oz, and who gets the shorter one to Dubai or wherever?
He's got to be kidding
Roy Keane backs plan
Papers actually get it right, blast the foreign plan
After all their transfer bull****, they actually talk sense.
Managers "skeptical"
Ferguson furious with the idea
Redknapp compares the idea to the Harlem Globetrotters
The International Perspective
Idiot LA General Manager Lalas "thrilled" by idea
Aussie FA dubious, "A-League is priority"
Japan FA opposed to plan
The Bottom Line
FIFA to examine "International Round" plan
Read all that at work (a lot of down time, ESPN is one of the few "allowed" sites at the desk, haha). The gist of it all is the plan will never get off the ground.
I think FIFA will shoot it down, and even if by some idiot chance they don't, I sincerely doubt any of the national associations will allow it.
How's that? :6:
Stupid Premier League :19:
"The great fallacy is that the game is first and foremost about winning. It's nothing of the kind. The game is about glory. It's about doing things in style, with a flourish, about going out and beating the other lot, not waiting for them to die of boredom."
-Danny Blanchflower, Ex-Spurs Captain
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