Time For A Change?

[jUsT2eXy]

So after yesterdays 'shock' defeat, is that what Harry finally needed in order to be proven wrong about his tactics?

I have always said we should be playing a 4-5-1 formation as more often that not we struggle in midfield and then we can't get the ball to the two strikers.

If we had a five man midfield, it should allow us to regain and retain possession and therefore stop hoofing the ball up to the strikers and hoping they get a touch. (Just like Portsmouth yesterday)

If 4-5-1 was a bad formation no one would use it.
Yet a lot of the top teams have one upfront and five in midfield.
A holding midfielder (or two in liverpools case) would be the way forwards..I don't know if Huddlestone would enjoy sitting at the back now...
Hopefully when we get Sandro we can do this.



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The Arsenal 4-4 game was played with this formation with Modric behind the striker

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This is the best 4-5-1 scenario. A holding midfielder helping defence, breaking through and passing the ball onto someone more creative. Thus Huddlestone here is a 'Deep lying Playmaker'.


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Again an attacking 4-5-1



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An attacking 4-5-1


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This is a good formation too. Modric is the attacking midfielder linking up with Defoe and or the midfielders who would 'burst' forward. Modric can also help by getting back. He would have a free role.



The Striker would be rotated depending on opposition. A target man would be great, but Defoe and Pav (target man) would be suited to the role with Crouch coming on as an impact sub for a striker or sacrifice a midfielder for him.

But, Harry will never change his tactics. So back to the drawing... I mean ranting board =)

[DanSpurs80]

I have always championed the idea of a 4-5-1 formation.

Arry will never play it though not while we have Defoe who is dependant on a big man to win the ball, Crouch who cant play football and Pav who simply cant play the lone role.

We need to buy someone like Tevez. My shout would be Mauro Zarate!.

[Justinyidarmy]

I chose the wtf option just because it sounded funny when i read it outloud lmao, but yeah I do agree we need a change of formation, although i dont know if 4-5-1 would suit us considering none of our strikers seem to be able to put a ball in the back of a net...

[BigDub]

Yep...hard to decide. A change might not be the worst thing in the world...problem is we absolutely do not have the personnel to play a 4-5-1. Our strikers simply could not do it.

[Crottenham]

it should not be a thing to decide. a team should be able to switch formations to suprise opponets.

your current team is to creative in midd to play 4-4-2

[BigDub]

Mate, Defoe, Pav, and Crouch are not lone strikers...it is worthless playing a 4-5-1 when you don't have the striker that is capable of doing so....ruins the whole formation.

Just look at the Scousers. They try to play a 4-5-1 even when Torres is out and Ngog is in. Ngog can't play alone worth shite, and that is why they suffer when he plays...because they insist on playing the tactic even though he cant!

[Enfield_spurs]

Harry plays it how he thinks is best, if he is happy with the 4-4-2 system then theres nothing we can do except sack him, and that would be moronic. We need stability and sacking managers in the past has never served us too well.

,but yes i do like the 4-5-1 system. Although perhaps we need a better all round striker for this. Defoe isnt tall enough, crouch isnt prollific enough. Not too sure about pav

[Crottenham]

agree

but as i said 4-4-2 should not be trashed, it should remain as an option... my point: it is easier to buy one lone striker than to waste such potential midfield

[weirddave]

The 4-5-1 would only suit Berbatov. He likes to lounge around upfront and have the ball spoon-fed to him, but when he gets the ball, he does damage.

Not suggesting we buy him back though. Let's go after Huntelaar again :P

[CmonyouSpurs]

Prefer a 4-2-3-1 setup:
-------------Gomes-------------
Corluka--Dawson--Bassong--Bale
-----Huddlestone--Palacios------
Lennon------Modric------Kranjcar
------------Defoe/Pav------------

[rudi]

We played close to a 451 against Sunderland and got shafted. Our problem is we don't have a top class striker. JD scores in bursts, as does Pav and Crouch will never be a goal every second game man at club level. I like them as players but we've been in desperate need for a Huntelaar/Van Nistelroy style goal scorer for donkeys' years now. Just witness how many chances we create compared to the number that are even put on target.

Ho hum, I guess that's why the great ones are so eye-wateringly expensive...

[Huddlestone]

a 4-5-1 never works with Tottenham. We simply dont have the players to play that formation well. Harry Redknapp is not a tactical manager. Hes a good disciplineren who has good Man Management and who is good at giving youth a go and has Transfer Market awareness for bargains and co. When ever Harry trys to experiment beyond 4-4-2 it usually goes horribly wrong.

[weirddave]

a 4-5-1 never works with Tottenham. We simply dont have the players to play that formation well. Harry Redknapp is not a tactical manager. Hes a good disciplineren who has good Man Management and who is good at giving youth a go and has Transfer Market awareness for bargains and co. When ever Harry trys to experiment beyond 4-4-2 it usually goes horribly wrong.

4-3-3 anyone? lol.

Exhausts all strikers, but could increase goal-chances three-fold :P

Gomes
Charlie Dawson [A Bollard] BAE
Bentley Gudjohnsen Bale
Pav Defoe Modric

[Huddlestone]

4-3-3 anyone? lol.

Exhausts all strikers, but could increase goal-chances three-fold :P

Gomes
Charlie Dawson [A Bollard] BAE
Bentley Gudjohnsen Bale
Pav Defoe Modric

Would never work, and lol a bollard

Depending on who we sign, id go with this:

---------------Gomes--------------
Corluka-Dawson-----Bassong-Bale
--------------Wilson P--------------
-------NEW ATM---O'Hara--------
Lennon----------------------Modric
-------------NEW ST--------------

Subs: NEW backup keeper, King/Woodgate, BAE, Huddlestone, Kranjcar, Defoe, Crouch, Pav, Sandro, Walker,

edit: that formation is kinda similar to how Barcelona play. Have Lennon + Modric playing as Inside forwards, with the ST/CF playing the Target man who can hold the ball up (ideally Dzeko). I put O'Hara in there because I believe we need someone in the team who gives a shit and who is passionate (someone close to say D.Fletcher?) and I think O'Hara is this player who can do that. A New Attacking mid would be good but i dont no who? I suppose Modric could play there and Niko come in on the flanks or we could buy a new winger or w/e

[weirddave]

Taken from my article on possible tactics:

Spurs' Top-Four Campaign: My Dream Team | Bleacher Report

The injury list is incredibly long and terrible. King and Woodgate are injured so this means limited options, particularly in terms of defence. Vedran Corluka had to have an injection yesterday just to keep him going and Aaron Lennon may still be unavailable for the North London Derby on Apr. 14.

My formation would be a dense 4-5-1—kind of a Barcelona formation.

Gomes

Walker/Charlie Dawson Bassong Bale
Bentley Kranjcar Gudjohnsen Modric Rose
Defoe

I chose this formation because the defence still looks quite bulky. Bale can tackle and work his way up the wing while linking with Rose and Modric. Bentley and Rose can play crosses into the box for strikers to get on the end of. Attacking options are abundant and can keep teams guessing.

Gudjohnsen can be in the middle to be fed balls from all directions (ha ha very funny, perverts ;D ). Gudjohnsen will be slightly in front of Modric and Kranjcar who are excellent at link-up play. The Iceman can then have the choice of running in the hole next to Defoe or staying behind to play a through pass.

Gomes
Has been in stunning form this season. Fifteen clean sheets and three penalty saves under his belt—ALL from the same striker: Darren Bent. The look on Darren Bent's face after twice being denied his hat-trick on Saturday: priceless!

Walker
Had a very respectable debut against Portsmouth and showed almost the same at Sunderland. He can fill Hutton's position if Sunderland buy the former Rangers right-back in the summer with his attacking mentality.

Palacios
This Honduran midfielder is 100 percent South American beef. Palacios can put in great tackles to scare seven shades of brown out of any approaching attacker.

Bassong
He's the only centre-back left. Highly concerning sometimes, but is very capable of pulling off a world-class performance at other times.

Bale
This Ryan Giggs shadow doesn't just run up the wing, he can challenge attackers at the back, too. Once he wins the ball, he tends to run with it which encourages Spurs to get forward again on the counter whilst forcing the opposition to retreat (and at least three defenders to challenge Bale).

Bentley
Bentley has vastly improved his dribbling, pace, and crossing ability to regain favour from Spurs fans and fill the void on the wing that Aaron Lennon's injury has left behind.

He's become a superb asset to the team compared to what he was last season.

Kranjcar
The women-pulling power and dribbling ability of David Ginola live on through this Croatian studmuffin. He can, on occasion, link up with Luka Modric in midfield. Refer to the Spurs home game against Everton for more details.

Gudjohnsen
The Iceman has still got the Champions League experience that Spurs fans wanted to see shine through. His dribbling and playmaking ability would be ideal for constant feeding of goal chances to the striker and may even try a few himself.

Modric
Take a five-and-a-half-foot man, place a hamster face on it for the Johan Cruyff look, add the passing ability and vision of Glenn Hoddle and you have Luka Modric. Keeps the ball ever so well.

Rose
The young midfielder has not had many chances to show his capabilities on the pitch, but when he's been given the chance, he's shown the Lennon-like pace required of a winger. This can be useful on the opposite side to David Bentley.

Pavlyuchenko
If we compare the striker.com (British fans will know what I'm referring to), Pavlyuchenko has it all! He can receive a pass and calmly finish, can shoot with either foot from distance, and can head in crosses without playing leapfrog with every centre-back in the league (i.e. Crouch).

Blah blah blah 'Rose and Walker are you nucking futs they're reserves' blah blah. I chose Rose because Lennon might not even appear on Wednesday and I don't want BAE getting sent off in three of the most important games of the season. Like it or lump it folks...