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    Hey guys thought I'd post this thread to hopefully help some of you improve your game. I don't expect much activity really but the basic idea is for everyone to post hands they played and ask for feedback whilst explaining their reads and reasoning. I'll keep an eye on it constantly to help share my knowledge of the game as reviewing hands is perhaps the best way to improve your play.

    I don't play too much live except for big £5-10k EPT events and the odd world series event which I'm only playing the main event this year.


    NOTE: WHEN POSTING HANDS LEAVE OUT RESULTS IN ORDER TO EXCLUDE RESULTS ORIENTATION.

    First hand:

    Villain is an okayish reg on the tighter side. He perceives me to be a very good loose aggressive winning player.

    PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $215 Tournament, 2500/5000 Blinds 500 Ante (9 handed) - PokerStars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

    BB (t75913)
    UTG (t13373)
    Hero (UTG+1) (t98425)
    MP1 (t357777)
    MP2 (t81419)
    MP3 (t49006)
    CO (t267501)
    Button (t107523)
    SB (t77913)

    Preflop: Hero is UTG+1 with Q, A
    1 fold, Hero bets t10000, 5 folds, SB calls t7500, 1 fold

    Flop: (t29500) 5, 4, A (2 players)
    SB checks, Hero checks

    Turn: (t29500) 6 (2 players)
    SB bets t15000, Hero calls t15000

    River: (t59500) 10 (2 players)
    SB bets t52442 (All-In)


    I played this hand very badly looking back on it, after raising UTG+1 my line looks awful when I don't continuation bet the flop, by not doing this I have surrendered the lead in aggression to the small blind and I have no idea where he is at. With stacks this shallow I expect him to have a hand a lot of the time when he bets the turn although he could steal here will show up with air sometimes, by not having the lead I really have no idea how hard he has hit this board. Raising the turn is an option I really don't like because if he shoves I have no fold equity and there are no hands in his value range that I beat as he has proven to me over many hands. I expect him to reshove over a turn raise with only A5, A4, A6, 66, 55, and 44. I think we can discount AK and AA from his range as he jams them pre 100% of the time.


    However the turn brings a flush draw which he is folding to a raise, when we add his preflop game together with the range he leads the turn with (I think he almost always semibluffs with a draw here although there are no straight draws he calls with preflop).

    Therefore for everything he is betting on the turn I calculated his equity to be...

    46% (Equity calculator is awful because I'm cheap and get the free one, so did it on paper)


    So the equity given the range of value hands we can assign him here on the turn is

    Board: 5d As 4h 6d


    equity win tie pots won pots tied
    Hand 0: 09.091% 09.09% 00.00% 108 0.00 { AdQh }
    Hand 1: 90.909% 90.91% 00.00% 1080 0.00 { 66-44, A6s-A4s, A6o-A4o }


    for anyone who couldn't read it we are only 9% to make the best hand vs that range and we are 0% against the top of his range. Therefore I concluded that raising the turn is awful as we fold out all the hands we are dominating and keep in the ones that have us crushed. Therefore given the misplaying on the flop I like my flat call on the turn.


    As for the river he shoves and that is what I'm leaving out of my post in the hope that it can be discussed in this thread.

    So what do you do on this river?


    Cheers
    Enfield



    Last edited by Enfield_spurs; 21-06-2011 at 01:32 AM.


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    Also think about my hand being massively under represented. In order for him to value shove he has to put me on a hand strong enough to beat the bottom of his range in order for me to call.

    However when I check through the flop and just flat the turn my hand looks a lot like TT, JJ, QQ, KK, 99 or something like that which just wants a cheap showdown as it has equity against the draws and lower pairs in his range (in this case I doubt there are any). Only hand Im raising UTG+1 and then folding the turn is KQs/o.


    ... although personally I continuation bet lower pairs on this flop and sometimes barrel depending on turn villain might not know it so therefore the point still stands.

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    Come on guys, just think about it

    01 @weirddave
    02 @funkfish
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    04 @BigDub
    05 @boo wills
    06 @HeroesComesandGoes
    07 @RiverWire
    08 @P UNIT 1980

    09 @DaveYid


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    What a ****ing waste of time lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by Enfield_spurs View Post
    What a ****ing waste of time lol
    In all fairness I play poker for fun so I really don't pay that much attention to hands. Also you may find a change to the thread title might help. Try and make it a bit more obvious that it's about poker.

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    Dno how to change thread titles mate lol

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    @P UNIT 1980 ...... Lmfao. Mate I kid you not I am seriously interested in this but you lost me at FLOP. I won this poker game on here so these fookers are proper shit. I just went for pairs mate and blagged the bollox off of it a few times. Lol you can't underestimate my shitness, I do not kid.Don't stop though mate I find it dead interesting and will pointlessly read this as I would love to know how to play and how I won. PS. Pairs are good right?
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    I spent 3 hours earlier revising for this thread ffs

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    I won 26k on a pair of 2's I remember that.......... Lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by P UNIT 1980 View Post
    @P UNIT 1980 ...... Lmfao. Mate I kid you not I am seriously interested in this but you lost me at FLOP. I won this poker game on here so these fookers are proper shit. I just went for pairs mate and blagged the bollox off of it a few times. Lol you can't underestimate my shitness, I do not kid.Don't stop though mate I find it dead interesting and will pointlessly read this as I would love to know how to play and how I won. PS. Pairs are good right?
    Haha fair play mate, here are some definitions of poker terms I have used in this thread.

    Villain = Opponent
    UTG+1 = (Under the gun plus one)2nd person to act preflop, 4th after the flop. Out of position to 5 seats on 9 handed table.
    Reg = Regular player who grinds these stakes to make a living
    Tight = Selection of hands that they play are small hands with high value
    Loose aggressive = Selection of hands is very wide and includes a lot of crap, applies a lot of pressure through bet/raising.
    SB = Small blind, 2nd last to act pre-flop and last to act after the flop. The worst position to play from, therefore usually people are tighter when calling raises out of position.
    Flop = First 3 community cards dealt
    Turn = The 4th community card dealt
    River = The 5th
    Continuation bet = The bet made by the last aggressor on the flop, and then on the turn if made again.
    Stacks = Ammount of chips measured in big blinds.
    Shove = Raises all in
    Fold equity = Priced of out a call as odds you are getting do not match the % you have to make the best hand.
    Value range = Hands that look to induce calls / raises for value.
    Flush draw = When collectively you are missing one card to make a flush, you are "drawing" to that suit.
    Equity = Chance to make the best hand.


    Sorry, I honestly made it as simple as I could. This is what I consider in the first 3 seconds or so, before I think about previous hands, game flow and a whole bunch of stuff.

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    You must have a head like a fcukin water mellon to think about that much shit in three seconds.

    I will be reading this thread in 3 months and still be suffering nosebleeds due to emense concentration.

    You are clearly a much cleverer Cnut than me, lol.

    I lift heavy shit. I am good at that.....! That sometimes gives me nosebleeds too come to think of it, lol.

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    PS. Pairs are good ain't they? Lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by P UNIT 1980 View Post
    You must have a head like a fcukin water mellon to think about that much shit in three seconds.

    I will be reading this thread in 3 months and still be suffering nosebleeds due to emense concentration.

    You are clearly a much cleverer Cnut than me, lol.

    I lift heavy shit. I am good at that.....! That sometimes gives me nosebleeds too come to think of it, lol.
    It comes through practice not intelligence mate and that's the honest truth. I started when I was 17 and in that time I've played 2.2million hands online. That is what makes you go through a thought process quickly. And tbh when I was in San remo last year for the EPT event, I hit my nose on a door that slammed in my face and my nose was pouring with blood.

    Everything causes nosebleeds lol.

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    Quote Originally Posted by P UNIT 1980 View Post
    PS. Pairs are good ain't they? Lol
    Reasonably good lol, hand ranking goes

    High card (worst)
    Pair
    Two pair
    Three of a kind
    Straight
    Flush
    Full house (three of a kind and a pair)
    Four of a kind
    Straight flush
    Royal flush. (Best)

    Although you only flop a pair 36% of the time, therefore when your playing a good % of the time a pair will be good.

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    Lmao mate woke my missus up laughing at that lol.

    Probably get a fookin nose bleed off her too at this rate.

    Time to sleep i think and think about my next poker tournament and the next pair I blag it with.

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