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      I really rate both Mario Madzukic and Josip Tadic (especially tadic who is only 20). I just wondered what you guys thought about them seeing as though you get to see them on a regular basis. Are they ones to watch for the future as I suspect?

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      Although I'm neither Dinamo nor Hajduk fan, the best young striker IMHO is Rukavina. He went to PAO this season. As a player, he's similar to Tadić. Both are pretty fast, but Rukavina IMO handles the ball a bit better. Kalinic's too static, but dangerous inside the box. Mandzukic is ok, but he annoys me with his aggression when he looses the ball. Often gets a yellow card for it.

      IMHO they'll be only mediocre players.

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      Tadic is really fast but often lacks composure. He gets rid of defenders in a blink of an eye and then fails to score. But sometimes he scores screamers and you can`t wonder why he can`t finish simple tap ins. I guess time is on his side and he can only be better.

      Mandzukic is lesser copy of Z. Ibrahimovic. He has great technique, is fast, not weak, and can finish. But he has problems with his his ego I guess. He seems egocentric and sometimes doesn`t pass. But if he becomes more professional and stops visiting night clubs so often, he could be great player. Last season Dinamo rejected 10 mil euro offer from Werder.

      If you are looking for the next great player in Croatian football, his name is Milan Badelj. He is 19 and plays in Dinamo first 11. He is something between Boban and Prosinecki. He plays MC, and AMC position. Great technique, passing, creativity...Dinamo looked for Modric replacement and bought P.Morales, Chilean national player, but in his own backyard there was a player that is way better. When he was 15 he played in Manchester at youth tournament which Dinamo won, and was immediately wanted by Man Utd.

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      He sounds interesting. I guess that's why I rate Tadic so highly, cos I only get to see the goals he does finish & not all the misses! However, like we say in England, you have to get there before you miss it & the fact that he is getting in the right positions is a good sign for a young player.

      Same with Mandzukic. I only get to see the good stuff he does but obviously don't get to hear too much about his personality & personal life!
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      Mandzukic has problems with stamina, I mean he is always running but when he has to do something important then he fails because hes exhausted. But then again if he has a good day and feels great he can do wonders and often puts 2 or more goals in opponents net.

      Tadic is not so ambitious , but naturally is more talented than Mandzukic.

      Croatian players in Croatian league to look at :
      Ticinovic (17,Hajduk),
      Badelj(19, Dinamo Zagreb)
      Tadic (20, Dinamo ZAgreb)
      Mandzukic (21, Dinamo Zagreb)
      Nikola Kalinic(20? Hajduk)
      Tomasov (22? Zadar)
      Vručina (23 Slaven Belupo - uefa cup )
      Anas Sharbini (22? Rijeka)

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      Quote Originally Posted by Playboy View Post
      Mandzukic has problems with stamina, I mean he is always running but when he has to do something important then he fails because hes exhausted. But then again if he has a good day and feels great he can do wonders and often puts 2 or more goals in opponents net.

      Tadic is not so ambitious , but naturally is more talented than Mandzukic.

      Croatian players in Croatian league to look at :
      Ticinovic (17,Hajduk),
      Badelj(19, Dinamo Zagreb)
      Tadic (20, Dinamo ZAgreb)
      Mandzukic (21, Dinamo Zagreb)
      Nikola Kalinic(20? Hajduk)
      Tomasov (22? Zadar)
      Vručina (23 Slaven Belupo - uefa cup )
      Anas Sharbini (22? Rijeka)

      You forgot Domagoj Vida he plays MD, he is in Osijek, and U21 Croatia, got only 19 years, this summer Liverpool was ofterin 1 million for him, but chairman of Osijek said that Vida in 2 years will cost 10 or more millions, big talent..
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      I belive Ticinovic will be even better then Modric in 3-4 years
      I also like Badelj and Kalinic

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      I wouldn`t say Ticinovic will be better than Modric. Ticinovic is more a winger type of player while Modric is midfielder so there can be no comparing. But he is a great potential. Without a doubt.

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      Ticinovic is closest to Medved if you want to compare
      Even his hairstye is similar

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      Quote Originally Posted by jeremija444 View Post
      Tadic is really fast but often lacks composure. He gets rid of defenders in a blink of an eye and then fails to score. But sometimes he scores screamers and you can`t wonder why he can`t finish simple tap ins. I guess time is on his side and he can only be better.

      Mandzukic is lesser copy of Z. Ibrahimovic. He has great technique, is fast, not weak, and can finish. But he has problems with his his ego I guess. He seems egocentric and sometimes doesn`t pass. But if he becomes more professional and stops visiting night clubs so often, he could be great player. Last season Dinamo rejected 10 mil euro offer from Werder.

      If you are looking for the next great player in Croatian football, his name is Milan Badelj. He is 19 and plays in Dinamo first 11. He is something between Boban and Prosinecki. He plays MC, and AMC position. Great technique, passing, creativity...Dinamo looked for Modric replacement and bought P.Morales, Chilean national player, but in his own backyard there was a player that is way better. When he was 15 he played in Manchester at youth tournament which Dinamo won, and was immediately wanted by Man Utd.
      This is actuallz the best post here, I-ll just try to add few more stuff... Mandzukic=his ego is through the roof, and since ajax game last september, he didn't show anything at all.....yes, very talented but needs to understand taht world is bigger then croatia... Only players who I like in croatian league atm are tomasov and ticinovic... Those two play in teams that they have noone to play with, therefore their talent can't be seen as much... Ok, ticinovic has kalinic and that's about it... Badelj still has a lot to learn, and is easier for him due to playing in better team, imo, tomasov is better then badelj... Best striker in cro league atm is i Kalinic. Last year he was top league scorer in worst hajduk ever....

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      I dont think you should be looking at Mandzukic or Tadic.. becose imo they will never be top class.
      Even though I am Dinamo fan I think that Hajduk split has better talents in since Dinamo sold most of it's players..Ticinovic is a definitley promising wonderkid..Gabric and Kalinic are also quite good and I would bet my money on Badelj from Dinamo that he will be top class one day.

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      That is nonsense. Mandzukic has potential to be a world class striker. He just needs to get his head strait, and a move to a bigger club could do that. See him as a poor mans benzema, with great potential of becoming a player like benzema.

      Tadic - I really like this player, and cant wait for him to start scoring goals. For me personally, he is closest to Suker we ever had, he just needs to start sending the ball inside the goal instead of the stands

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      They both suck! I mean, they are good in Croatian league. Cant be compared with for example ex Dinamo&#180;s striker Eduardo DaSilva. But you never know with those strikers, all they need is in their heads actualy. Most of them sh!t their pants when they find themselves in situation of scoring. But Eduardo, for example in Dinamo had Modric behind him, feeding him with balls. After few seasons, goalscoring sitations became very common to him and today he is cold blooded killer when he gets in situation. Heh... you should see that Modric-Eduardo combo...they grow up together...

      Anyway, my point is there is no killers in Cro league atm, but you never know... For Dado Prso it took 28 years before he started to think how to miss goalkeeper when he shoots the goal.

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      Quote Originally Posted by jeremija444 View Post
      Tadic is really fast but often lacks composure. He gets rid of defenders in a blink of an eye and then fails to score. But sometimes he scores screamers and you can`t wonder why he can`t finish simple tap ins. I guess time is on his side and he can only be better.

      Mandzukic is lesser copy of Z. Ibrahimovic. He has great technique, is fast, not weak, and can finish. But he has problems with his his ego I guess. He seems egocentric and sometimes doesn`t pass. But if he becomes more professional and stops visiting night clubs so often, he could be great player. Last season Dinamo rejected 10 mil euro offer from Werder.

      If you are looking for the next great player in Croatian football, his name is Milan Badelj. He is 19 and plays in Dinamo first 11. He is something between Boban and Prosinecki. He plays MC, and AMC position. Great technique, passing, creativity...Dinamo looked for Modric replacement and bought P.Morales, Chilean national player, but in his own backyard there was a player that is way better. When he was 15 he played in Manchester at youth tournament which Dinamo won, and was immediately wanted by Man Utd.
      I also feel the need to add something here... Tadic is an excellent player.. occasionally.. I mean, like jeremija already said. he has excellent positioning, acceleration and pretty good anticipation of the situation and where will the ball go, but man... what he can miss, that is epic... I've seen him score some pretty amazing goals only to miss completely empty goal 10 minutes later...

      Mandzukic is a very, very useful player.. He is not so egocentric as people here suggest and he often makes wonderful assists.. He is one of those players that play with passion and that is why a) he plays considerably better in big games and b) he has more yellow cards then the whole dynamo zagreb backline.. although, he also gets yellow cards very often because of argueing or commenting on referee's decisions.. but, when he is having one of his days, he cant be stopped..

      Kalinic is mostly an anchorman, very strong, good in the air, not very fast, but deadly in the box... like Tadic, he has very good reading of the game and can easily predict where the midfield will pass the ball.. he also has very good positioning, allowing him to get the upper hand even over faster players or players that are better in the air..

      Also, there are 2 players I think only one of my countrymen said and that Tomasov from Zadar and Vrucina from Slaven Belupo. Tomasov is a Modric type player, small but agile, very fast, very good dribbling skills, except he has no one to play with in Zadar. Hopefully, he will join Dynamo or Hajduk soon and get some international experience also. Vrucina is a striker for Slaven Belupo, very fast, not very strong, like Kalinic, but can shrug off defenders if needed. His dribbling skills are also a joy to behold. Last few games, he scored some pretty amazing goals also...
      Here is the game against Dynamo Zagreb, where he scored both goals in the 2:0 win: YouTube - Slaven Belupo - Dinamo Zagreb 2:0
      And here is the goal similar to that Lampard praised goal against Hull:
      Euro-gol Bojana Vruèine &bull; Video &bull; Index.hr

      Also, there are players that have a great potential and future ahead of them like Ticinovic (Hajduk), Badelj(Dynamo ZG) and, from what I have seen lately, Ibanez (also Dynamo Zg)...
      Hopefully, I made sense...

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