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Obviously this year racism has turned up bigger and better than ever this year. I was wondering what is everyones thoughts on this all. I wrote a little piece on it for uni. This is some of it.
During the last six months one of the English games ugliest heads has reappeared and is looking to derail a perfectly successful season. And at the heart of it is England’s poster boy and Captain John Terry and England’s most successful European club Liverpool. At what point should the FA step in and seriously punish these offenders.
It seems incredible to me an avid football fan that the FA has not come in and stripped the serial offender of not just the captaincy but involvement in the England Team. Instead he is facing fines of 2500 pounds. This to a player who is on + 150,000 pounds a week it is petty change. This is the latest spat involving John Terry in which in 2001 he was accused of abusing U.S. tourists after the 9/11 attacks and was temporarily stripped off the England captaincy after allegedly having an affair with his team mate and good friends wife.
In October premier league giants Manchester United and Liverpool played out an 1-1 draw. The match was marred by Liverpool’s Luis Suarez being accused by Patrice Evra of racial abuse. He received an 8 match ban and a fine of 40,000 pounds. The difference between these two incidents are that Terry has been seen on camera mouthing the words. Clear as day. Suarez was an allegation. Following the punishment many of Liverpool’s players and managers wore T-shirts branded Suarez’s name and image saying that “the FA were determined to bring charges to Suarez even before interviewing Suarez at the beginning of November”.
The FA are protecting Terry and for what reason. What message is this sending to other players around the premier league and youths viewing the most watched sporting league on the planet.
Culminating all of this is the FA Cup clash where QPR faced Chelsea in what will be the first meeting between Ferdinand and Terry. The focus has been will Terry for the second time in his career be rejected a handshake seemingly a mark of respect for the England captain, and meant to be the most respected man in England. Must look in the mirror and ask where he has gone wrong.
I know they stopped the traditional match handshake for all this particular match.
But what is everyones thoughts on this. What should happen to terry?, Are the FA correct. Also today more calls to axe terry over his toxic derssing room influence.
Cheers COYS
This has been beaten to death in the Suarez and Terry threads.
Not saying you're wrong in starting a thread, I think you'll find a few of us burnt out on this topic. Or maybe it's just me.
So I'll summarize my opinions:
Terry and Suarez = Twats
Liverpool = Disgrace
LOL.....
Park Lane Yido (02-02-2012)
My thought as of today is that Terry should be nowhere near to the national team until he is proved innocent or apologised and made his peace . He is being advised very badly .
We have all seen the close up of him abusing young Ferdinand .
Blimey Rev! Proved innocent? What about Ei incumbit probatio qui dicit, non qui negat*, eh what about that I ask you?Originally Posted by Rev John Ripsher
*I'm sure I dont need to translate this for you frightfully clever fellows but - "Proof lies on him who asserts, not on him who denies". Yeah like I can understand Latin - I got it from Wkipedia!
“Ordinary shops sell what look like black socks, but if you look closely, you'll see that they're very, very, very, very, very, very, very dark blue"
More British racists lol
Manchester United fan charged for shouting racist abuse at Stoke match | Football | guardian.co.uk
We'v all got em mate.
Just a hot topic at the minute with your mob being pioneers along with Blatter.
The anti semitic shit that gets hurled at us and has been so for the last 2 decades when you look at it from the 3rd persons view is horrific.
None of it bothers me but other than calling myself a yid, I am not part of a so called minority group.
Unless you consider my superior intelligence and dashing good looks combo.
I bet Blatter is British.
BigDub (03-02-2012)
Not supporting British racists here, far from it, Terry is a scumbag, but i will say racism is a lot worse in other parts of the world. Spain, Italy and South America for example. When there is an incident of racism, crowd trouble, corruption or something, everyone likes to get on the bandwagon and start slagging us off but it happens nearly everywhere and much worse too!
I have to play devil's advicate for a moment and say that Suarez shouldn't at the moment be tarred with the same brush as Terry considering nobody knows what exactly Suarez was saying to Evra and no other player or official heard what they were saying either.
The difference is that Terry is captured close-up saying what he said to Ferdinand, whereas Suarez hasn't directly been quoted and translated if I'm not mistaken...not saying he is an angel in this though. Innocent until proven guilty. Terry has been proven almost guilty but there's not much evidence to convict Suarez...
Last edited by weirddave; 03-02-2012 at 11:12 PM.
Reporter: "What is it like to score against the best team in the world [Barcelona]?".
Jake Livermore: "Score against the best team in the world??? I play for them [TOTTENHAM]."
Dave I'm pretty sure their are FA transcripts stating the whole negrito convo with Evra.
And that he and Kunt (spelling) agreed on what was said but said that in his country it was acceptable.
Could be totally wrong though in which case ignore my ignorant shit.
Search the Suarez is a racist can't thread to confirmation.
1. I wouldnt go as far to say that Suarez is correct in that its "acceptable" in South America but many people do call each other "Negrito" sometimes in an insulting, sometimes in a nuetral and sometimes even in an affectionate way. Its certainly not as taboo here as it is in Europe.
2. Suarez is a orrible cnut anyway, the handball in the World Cup, diving, insulting gestures, playacting the whole lot. Just his face makes me want to smack him and if he is living in a country where using racial/racist language is not acceptable he shouldnt use it or face the consequences.
He is one of the ugliest men to grace the premierleague. If rio ferdinand was a shoe in for the cb position like a few years ago it would be a very interesting dilemma for mr capello. Terry should be banned from england team and given a hefty match ban in the premier league.
Well according to home office the stats for racist chanting at football grounds are
Since 2008-09 fewest racist chanting arrests made by club supported: Fulham: 0, Man City: 0, Sunderland: 1, Liverpool: 1, Everton: 1
Since 2008-09 most racist chanting arrests made by club supported: Bolton: 7, Spurs: 7, BRFC: 6, Villa: 5, Stoke: 5, MUFC: 5, Chelsea: 4
http://www.homeoffice.gov.uk/publica...10?view=Binary
It is not a dick measuring competition but sometimes the stats do get forgotten. Imo, the Suarez issue could have been handled differently. It is a PR disaster for us. Considering that Racism is a big issue, we shouldn't have gone so ultra defensive from the on set. Asking Evra to be banned, Suarez t shirts and the constant interviews were not needed imo- they were setting bad examples. Just some initial clarification, wait till the judgement was passed and then choose the appropriate action. Suarez might not be a racist and he might have addressed Evra in a friendly way but the balance of probabilities were never in his favor. The independent panel are right in thinking that referring to man's skin color has no place on the football pitch even if it is addressed in a friendly way.
Link shows 2009-10 stats but the other stats are also available on the website.
Last edited by AnfieldRed; 04-02-2012 at 05:17 AM.
Regarding this, you guys remember when a lot of our fans got arrested for chanting about Judas C*mpbell, was that classed as racist??
Admttedly it outrageously offensive to the prick but when I've sang it's not got a single thing to do with his colour - he is just a cnut
yeah i agree with that it's not very nice but we'd hate him whether he was white, black or chinese. I do question the hanging from a tree bit the majority don't say it with any racial intent but im sure a few scumbags do. Some of the chat in the park lane end does have a nasty side to it sometimes, although the majority of times it's fine.
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