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      Quote Originally Posted by AmericanHotspur View Post
      I can see that one getting interesting actually. They still have Andrew Luck (that f*cker, who passed up an opportunity to be my beloved Panthers' franchise QB to stay another year. We got fooking $CAM Newton) but as you said, they lost Harbaugh and a lot of good players. Plus no one knows how the new Pac-12 is going to be.

      Still, don't count Luck out. The guy is a winner and may carry them to 9 wins.
      For the Pac-12 Oregon should win, they've done a good job luring our recruits with a fresh pair of Nike's. They're kind of flying under the radar but if Arizona State can pass the ball effectively that's going to be a tough team. Burfict is one of the only players I've ever seen that could have been drafted 1st round as a freshman. Calling im a beast just scratches the surface, he has a Baotelli-esque ego though. If he had better grades he would be starting for the Trojans. I wouldn't call him a miss from Carroll but Burfict and Manti were the two biggest losses of his final years, we would have two amazing LB'ers right now which is our problem position on the defense. Manti truly was a miss and to Notre Dame of all schools. I can't blame Pete for Burfict, it's not his fault he couldn't qualify.

      Anyways if Arizona St. can put up some points they're one of the teams that can beat Oregon. That defense is nasty and they Ducks don't like playing against them.

      Stanford, we'll see. Don't forget we almost beat them last year and we were terrible. The X-factor is Luck but if we have improved Linebackers he's going to have a tough game. At his best Barkley can be Luck's equal, he just has issues with consistency.

      Edit: One more thing, we had a bad year but we were just a two defensive stops and dropped ball by Rojo from being 11-2. Fight on....

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      Ill still take Oregon in the PAC-12, or whatever it is now. Their offense is just so explosive and they get better as the game goes on. Their comeback against Stanford last year was unbelievable.

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      Have you not seen my man, DEEEEEEEEENARDDDD!!!!! Hello Heisman. Gonna join the elite company of Tom Harmon, Desmond Howard (wudup college football hall of fame), and Charles Woooodson. Winningest program in college football history (# of wins and win pct). Heading back to the top under a new coach and coordinators. Maybe even steal the big ten right out from under everyone.....

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      Quote Originally Posted by BigDub View Post
      Have you not seen my man, DEEEEEEEEENARDDDD!!!!! Hello Heisman. Gonna join the elite company of Tom Harmon, Desmond Howard (wudup college football hall of fame), and Charles Woooodson. Winningest program in college football history (# of wins and win pct). Heading back to the top under a new coach and coordinators. Maybe even steal the big ten right out from under everyone.....
      I think Robert Woods could be the first receiver since Howard to win a Heisman, maybe not this season but next. I only think he'll stay 3yrs, he's probably ready for the league right now.






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      Personally I think if LSU can get decent play from the quarterback position they're the best team in America. Just look at that defense, they lost one of the best defensive players last season and they still are full of NFL talent.



      I can't disagree with LSU, but I do like my team. LSU has to travel to Tuscaloosa, and we return 9 on defense. We have questions at QB, but we'll be handing off A LOT this year with 4 OL back.

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      Anyone think Auburn are getting too big for their britches?

      Someone needs to smack them down with the quickness.



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      2011 USA Today Coaches Preseason Poll


      1. Oklahoma (42) - 1,454 points
      2. Alabama (13) - 1,414
      3. Oregon (2) - 1,309
      4. LSU (2) - 1,296
      5. Florida State - 1,116
      6. Stanford - 1,101
      7. Boise State - 1,065
      8. Oklahoma State - 933
      9. Texas A&M - 885
      10. Wisconsin - 829
      11. Nebraska - 814
      12. South Carolina - 779
      13. Virginia Tech - 767
      14. Arkansas - 750
      15. TCU - 687
      16. Ohio State - 631
      17. Michigan State - 536
      18. Notre Dame - 440
      19. Auburn - 329
      20. Mississippi State - 301
      21. Missouri - 266
      22. Georgia - 260
      23. Florida - 240
      24. Texas - 162
      25. Penn State - 161


      Receiving Votes: Arizona State (6-6) 158; West Virginia (9-4) 149; Utah (10-3) 50; Miami (Fla.) (7-6) 49; Iowa (8-5) 41; Northwestern (7-6) 30; Arizona (7-6) 28; UCF (11-3) 22; Michigan (7-6) 19; Air Force (9-4) 15; North Carolina (8-5) 14; Houston (5-7) 13; South Florida (8-5) 9; Hawaii (10-4) 8; Clemson (6-7) 7; Tennessee (6-7) 7; Southern Miss (8-5) 6; Brigham Young (7-6) 5; North Carolina State (9-4) 4; Northern Illinois (11-3) 4; Oregon State (5-7) 4; Pittsburgh (8-5) 3; Washington (7-6) 3; Georgia Tech (6-7) 1; Nevada (13-1) 1.

      No love for the Pac-12 South. It's alright, a few of the top 25 teams are overrated so they'll jump in with a couple of losses. Choklahoma overrated as usual.

      P.S. USC is ineligible to participate in this poll. If we could we would be 21-26. I think we're better then people think but we have to win to get respect. We'll see where we are in the AP Poll.

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      We are... Nice to see Penn State get some love in preseason. Unfortunately I think it'll end pretty quickly once the season starts. But I do think that if Rob Bolden starts making better decisions and matures a little bit, he will be in the Heisman discussion next year.

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      Tough news for LSU. He was going to be a vital part in LSU's plans this season.

      LSU assistant coach Steve Kragthorpe diagnosed with Parkinson's disease - College Football News | FOX Sports on MSN

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      Quote Originally Posted by BigDub View Post
      Have you not seen my man, DEEEEEEEEENARDDDD!!!!! Hello Heisman. Gonna join the elite company of Tom Harmon, Desmond Howard (wudup college football hall of fame), and Charles Woooodson. Winningest program in college football history (# of wins and win pct). Heading back to the top under a new coach and coordinators. Maybe even steal the big ten right out from under everyone.....
      Doubt it. Don't think Michigan has any sort of shot for a long time yet. Denard got figured out and is nothing special now, and since he's pretty much that whole team, can't see them doing much.

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      This isn't one of the soft OU teams of 2004-2007 that scored at will in conference play but couldn't finish off with a Bowl win at the end of the year. Granted, UConn is not a quality BCS bowl win by any stretch of the imagination, but the monkey is off the back. We were good enough in 2008 against Florida, ball just didn't bounce the right way, same thing with LSU in 2003. BlueCrew, Woods is a good player but he's maybe the 4th best WR in the nation...its way too early for any Heisman talk. Blackmon, Jeffrey, Broyles are all three better. Also a team thats flying under the radar a bit (albeit top 10) is Texas A&M, they have something like 21 starters back! But they'll have to settle for Big XII runner up, we don't loose in Norman

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      Quote Originally Posted by SouthCarolinaSpur View Post
      This isn't one of the soft OU teams of 2004-2007 that scored at will in conference play but couldn't finish off with a Bowl win at the end of the year. Granted, UConn is not a quality BCS bowl win by any stretch of the imagination, but the monkey is off the back. We were good enough in 2008 against Florida, ball just didn't bounce the right way, same thing with LSU in 2003.
      Please believe I'm not trying to offend but Florida played a brilliant defensive game. Which was something that whole season Oklahoma rarely came up against. Bradford was great that year but as I recall the Big 12 had a lot of high scoring games in 2008. I remember at the time the talking heads attributing that to the offensive dominance but to me that was a sub par year for Big 12 defense. The score was rather close but at no point did I feel that Florida didn't have the game under control and that was with one of their best players playing with an injury.

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      BlueCrew, Woods is a good player but he's maybe the 4th best WR in the nation...its way too early for any Heisman talk. Blackmon, Jeffrey, Broyles are all three better.
      You kind of made my point for me. He's the 4th best receiver in the nation coming off his freshman season. I made the Howard comparison because I think if a receiver is ever going to win it again, he has to contribute on special teams. I was being hyperbolic with the Heisman talk but if he keeps progressing then he could be in the mix his junior year. If he has a monster year and leads back into our first BCS bowl since the sanctions he'll have a lot of buzz surrounding him.

      Quote Originally Posted by SouthCarolinaSpur View Post
      Also a team thats flying under the radar a bit (albeit top 10) is Texas A&M, they have something like 21 starters back! But they'll have to settle for Big XII runner up, we don't loose in Norman
      We talked about A&M before, we have a resident Aggie on the board.

      To sum up, it just seems like my whole life as a football fan Oklahoma win the off-season hype award. You guys are good but personally I would put a couple teams over you. Alabama and Oregon are getting over looked even though highly ranked. Who did Oregon lose? Not many key parts and the did an effective job swagger jacking USC for recruits. We'll be alright without Flava Flav though.

      Either way, I can't wait for the season. We have a couple losses on our schedule but I'm dying without Trojan football.
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      Quote Originally Posted by BlueCrew LA View Post
      Please believe I'm not trying to offend but Florida played a brilliant defensive game. Which was something that whole season Oklahoma rarely came up against. Bradford was great that year but as I recall the Big 12 had a lot of high scoring games in 2008. I remember at the time the talking heads attributing that to the offensive dominance but to me that was a sub par year for Big 12 defense. The score was rather close but at no point did I feel that Florida didn't have the game under control and that was with one of their best players playing with an injury.
      Two turnovers inside their 5, including an extremely lucky interception (bouncing off legs) right before halftime. We did have some big scoring games, in fact we put up 60 5 games in a row...and 58 in the one before that.


      You kind of made my point for me. He's the 4th best receiver in the nation coming off his freshman season. I made the Howard comparison because I think if a receiver is ever going to win it again, he has to contribute on special teams. I was being hyperbolic with the Heisman talk but if he keeps progressing then he could be in the mix his junior year. If he has a monster year and leads back into our first BCS bowl since the sanctions he'll have a lot of buzz surrounding him.
      That's a pretty big if, though I agree with the special teams contribution point.

      We talked about A&M before, we have a resident Aggie on the board.

      To sum up, it just seems like my whole life as a football fan Oklahoma win the off-season hype award. You guys are good but personally I would put a couple teams over you. Alabama and Oregon are getting over looked even though highly ranked. Who did Oregon lose? Not many key parts and the did an effective job swagger jacking USC for recruits. We'll be alright without Flava Flav though.

      Either way, I can't wait for the season. We have a couple losses on our schedule but I'm dying without Trojan football.
      As much as they try to downplay Alabama playing a freshman QB, thats a damn big deal and Oregon looses quite a bit on defense. I'd love a matchup with the Fighting Phil Knights in the NC game though, still got some payback waiting from a certain onside kick... I guess we do get hyped quite a bit, but we are the most winning team in modern history

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      @LukaModric2010 Your boys stirring the pot again....

      I don't understand why A&M want to be in the SEC. You're just as likely to lose recruits as gain them playing in a better conference. I understand why SEC schools want A&M, so they can have a foothold in Texas, both recruiting and media exposure. I just don't see how it's beneficial to A&M. Oh well, it looks like the PAC-16 is going happen one way or another. Here's how the dominoes likely will fall....

      Pac-12 gains Oklahoma, Oklahoma State, Texas Tech, and Baylor

      SEC gains Texas A&M, Florida State, Miami, and Clemson

      Big East or Big-10 gain Kansas and Kansas State, Missouri, and Iowa State

      Texas screwed themselves being so greedy. They better hope they truly have the pull to operate as an independent.

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      Quote Originally Posted by BlueCrew LA View Post
      @LukaModric2010 Your boys stirring the pot again....

      I don't understand why A&M want to be in the SEC. You're just as likely to lose recruits as gain them playing in a better conference. I understand why SEC schools want A&M, so they can have a foothold in Texas, both recruiting and media exposure. I just don't see how it's beneficial to A&M. Oh well, it looks like the PAC-16 is going happen one way or another. Here's how the dominoes likely will fall....

      Pac-12 gains Oklahoma, Oklahoma State, Texas Tech, and Baylor

      SEC gains Texas A&M, Florida State, Miami, and Clemson

      Big East or Big-10 gain Kansas and Kansas State, Missouri, and Iowa State

      Texas screwed themselves being so greedy. They better hope they truly have the pull to operate as an independent.
      Yeah, I have kind of mixed feelings about the SEC move.......i dont know if I want it to happen or not.
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